Linux-Misc Digest #92, Volume #19 Fri, 19 Feb 99 02:13:15 EST
Contents:
Re: Netscape cach problem & messenger doesn't save any information? (.
=?big5?B?dS0tpHNfX19fX19fX19fLw==?= .)
[Q] Make http documents created by user modifiable by www group? (Brian Lavender)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) ("John S. Dyson")
SCSI CDROM Problem (Pavel Greenfield)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Ken)
Re: 3COM 3C905BTX Ethernet card (Ralf Lange)
Linux Users in Houston TX (Brian Feldman)
USA Nationwide CAD Software Reseller ("Peter Placek")
Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers (Jan)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Matt Dillon)
Re: Mail client for Linux (Enkidu)
Re: Looking for a 3270 terminal under Linux Text mode (Stephen Richard FREELAND)
Re: SCSI CDROM Problem (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Michael Humphries-Dolnick)
USA Nationwide CAD Software Reseller ("Peter Placek")
Can Applixware open Micorsoft Word formatted files (i.e. .doc files)?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Help with X related concepts. (Greg Thorne)
Re: How to make it run faster? ("TURBO1010")
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From: . =?big5?B?dS0tpHNfX19fX19fX19fLw==?= . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,hk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape cach problem & messenger doesn't save any information?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:21:55 +0000
Novicer Jothiw wrote:
>
> Dear Linux world,
> I'm a newbie to linux. In the Xwindow, my netscape's messenger doesn't
> save setting of subscription to newsgroups and also caches for netscape
> browser. What's wrong?
> Can somebody give me some idea?
>
> Thanks
> John
In Edit/Preference/News Group...
there is an option "news group dir".
make sure you really have this dir made.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Lavender)
Subject: [Q] Make http documents created by user modifiable by www group?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:52:46 GMT
I want to make my web documents writable by the www group, so users
who manage the web files can write to there. If I make them owned by
the www group and writable by the www group and a user writes a file
to there, the file ends up having the group ownership of "users" and
other users can't modify the file.
I would like it so that when the file is created it is part of the www
group and is writable by the www group. How do I do that? Example
follows. I am the sys admin.
darkstar:$ whoami
brian
darkstar:$ cat /etc/group
[snip]
users::100:games
nogroup::-2:
www:x:101:brian
darkstar:$ ls -la /var/lib/apache/share
drwxrwxr-x 3 www www 1024 Feb 17 17:36 cgi-bin/
drwxrwxr-x 3 www www 1024 Oct 12 00:20 htdocs/
drwxrwxr-x 2 www www 2048 Oct 12 00:20 icons/
darkstar:/var/lib/apache/share/htdocs$ ls -la
total 8
drwxrwxr-x 3 www www 1024 Feb 17 19:32 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 www root 1024 Oct 12 00:20 ../
-rwxrwxr-x 1 www www 2326 Jul 2 1996 apache_pb.gif*
-rwxrwxr-x 1 www www 1622 May 20 1998 index.html*
drwxrwxr-x 6 www www 1024 Oct 7 02:49 manual/
darkstar:/var/lib/apache/share/htdocs$ touch test.html
darkstar:/var/lib/apache/share/htdocs$ ls -la
total 8
drwxrwxr-x 3 www www 1024 Feb 17 19:32 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 www root 1024 Oct 12 00:20 ../
-rwxrwxr-x 1 www www 2326 Jul 2 1996 apache_pb.gif*
-rwxrwxr-x 1 www www 1622 May 20 1998 index.html*
drwxrwxr-x 6 www www 1024 Oct 7 02:49 manual/
-rw-r--r-- 1 brian users 0 Feb 17 19:32 test.html
I want test.html so it looks like:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 brian www 0 Feb 17 19:32 test.html
How do I that without issuing
darkstar:$ chgrp www test.html
and
darkstar:$ chmod 0664 test.html
on all the files I create. I know I can do a
darkstar:$ umask 0113
to get the right permissions while working in the directory, but is
there a way to make the mask apply to this area without having to
remember to issue it?
Should I be approaching this from a different angle?
brian
====================
Brian Lavender
Sacramento, CA
http://www.brie.com/brian/
"If a train station is where the train stops,
what is a workstation?" -- Phil Adamson
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From: "John S. Dyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 05:39:21 -0500
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>
>>Honest GPL preamble:
>
> Honest John S Dyson preamble:
>
> I understand that you wrote the code, but I'm still going to
> complain about the copyright you put on it. I'll spend the rest
> of my life whining about it.
>
> John, just drop it. The GPL isn't for you, obviously, but it's also not
> something that you need to complain about all the time. Just don't use
> it if you don't like it.
>
Dishonest people change discussions about ideals into attacks on
individuals. This isn't the first time that you have done this. Also,
someone deleted my posting, so this is a slightly reworded and expanded
reposting.
Honest statement about my position:
I understand that you wrote the code, and incorrectly and
call your software free, and I'm still going to
complain about the ersatz-free copyright -- only because
it isn't free. I'll answer the question honestly when
discussion comes up.
You are totally incorrect if you somehow think that I hate
GPL so badly that I won't use such software, or feel somehow
tainted by using software properly under any license. Just
reflect on that fact that Microsoft doesn't imply or suggest
that their software is generally free... In that sense,
I feel more comfortable with their license.
Let's see here: you can encumber your works when you link
your code with commercial code -- you also can sigificantly
encumber your works when you link your code with GPL
code. The kind of encumberance with GPL is a set of hoops
that you have to go through to distribute your own works that
are somehow linked with GPLed code. (One of them is that
you have to give away your source code.) That hoop is
very very costly.
BSD hoop has to do with mention of the functions or features
in advertisement. The trick is to avoid mentioning the stuff
that triggers the advertisement clause -- and that is easy
if the primary feature of your package isn't the BSD licensed
code. Your source code is safe (when using BSD or other free
software) from nasty redistribution encumberances.
--
John | Never try to teach a pig to sing,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | it makes one look stupid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | and it irritates the pig.
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From: Pavel Greenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: SCSI CDROM Problem
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:14:19 -0500
Hi,
I can't seem to get my SCSI Toshiba CDRom to work. (It's Toshiba
XM-5401TA.)
My SCSI adapter is the Adaptec 2940UW. Everything works under Windows
(i.e. hardware is OK). The two harddisks work perfectly fine under
linux.
Now I just installed the new linux system (Slackware 3.6) which tells me
that the supplied bootdisk had an adeqate kernel. However I still
could't mount my cdrom drive.
(I tried >>>mount /dev/hdc /cdrom, and mount would respond /dev/sdc is
not a valid block device). But it did recognize the drive at boot time
saying something like "SCSI CDROM sr0 .. ID:5 detected".
Since then I've rebuilt my kernel. I definitely enabled the SCSI CDROM
option. Now, it doesn't even recognize the drive at boottime.
What else can I try?
How do I know which device it has to be?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Pavel
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:22:24 -0800
From: Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
W Gerald Hicks wrote:
-- snip --
> It's so very twisted, vague, and difficult to comprehend that our
> legal counsel has advised against even hiring anyone who is so
> infected with having released works under it.
>
Without getting into whether a BSD-style license or GNU is better,
I just want to say that if your legal council thinks that having
ever released something under GNU makes them too dangerous to hire,
then they are completely FUCKED UP. And if you listen to them,
then maybe you worry too much about things that aren't worth
worrying about.
> Jerry Hicks
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I like FreeBSD. I'm sick of listening to all this crap about what
license is better. It's sounding more and more like going to a Linux
ng and listening to people argue about what Linux is "best."
Ken
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From: Ralf Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3COM 3C905BTX Ethernet card
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:42:08 +0100
The 3COM 3C905BTX is running without problems in my two PCs under SuSE
6.0, kernel 2.2.1 . I think there is not a problem trying out the new
kernel, because you can save the old one, try the new one, if it does
not work switch back to the old one.
After installing the 2.2.1 kernel I had to change the IP Masquerading
mechanism from ipfwadm to ipchains and adapt the way the soundcard is
configured. That was it.
Ralf Lange
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From: Brian Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Linux Users in Houston TX
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:02:28 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am interested in speaking with some Linux users (prefereably
Network/System Admins) in the Houston Texas area. The people I would
like to speak with must be EXPERTS in all aspects of setting up and
maintaining Linux in a production networked environment (especially one
that includes machines w/ other OSes on them).
If you are interested and QUALIFIED there is a potential to be involved
in an interesting project and possibly even make some $$$ in the
process. If you have doubts in your qualifactions and skills w/ Linux
then you need not respond to this posting. Please respond by email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I assure you that this is not another annoying recruiting company to
bother the H-LL out of you, it is an opportunity to help promote Linux
in production environments and hopefully have a little fun in the
process.
I look forward to speaking with any/all qualified individuals.
Brian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Peter Placek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USA Nationwide CAD Software Reseller
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:39:59 +0100
A European software manufacturer of a successful Mechanical CAD system
for Linux and Windows is looking to expand to North America to better serve
a growing clientele. The search is now on for a professional company or an
individual to act as a representative in the United States.
The suitable candidate must be able to promote and sell our CAD system, as
well as to provide training and support to clients.
This is a great opportunity to introduce a quality product to North America
with an excellent earning potential and a chance to grow.
If you are experienced in CAD systems for Mechanical Engineering and posses
excellent interpersonal and communication skills, with a strong commitment
to
establish and support a newly developed company please contact us at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter Placek
VariCAD
www.varicad.com
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From: Jan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:42:18 +0100
Toon Moene wrote:
>
> Eric Peterson wrote:
>
> > > I think we all have opinions about subjects read in the newspapers.
> > > None of those opinions have force of law. Without being on a jury and
> > > hearing the evidence presented in a courtroom, there's no way to
> > > accurately judge what he did or didn't do. His involvement with the
> > > Paula Jones lawsuit was as a citizen, not as President. All his
> > > conduct in that case, right or wrong, was as a citizen, not as
>
> > That's a dangerous way of looking at it. He is the leader of the USA. As
> > such EVERYTHING he does reflects on the USA and his position. You can't
> > simply seperate his actions into "citizen" and "presidential" so
> > conveniently.
>
> I am sorry to interrupt your TV soap, but the only thing that "reflects"
> on the USA *on this side of the pond* is the silly, ineffectual,
> investigation of one Kenneth Starr into an *alledged* "Whitewater" (or
> what's it called) fraud case by the current President of the United
> States Of America, culminating in a report published on the Internet
> that would certainly have been banned under the Communications Decency
> Act.
>
> Perhaps I do not even have to expound on *how* this reflects on the USA.
>
Quite true. It isn't long ago that Clinton was greeted with standing
ovations in the UN by all the world's leaders - as a token of their
sympathy with him because of the absurd and childish way he was being
harassed by his own peers.
To be quite frank, in spite of the obvious military and economic power
of the USA, it is very difficult to actually respect the country,
because
of this stiff, hypocritic 'christianity' and 'morality' that leading
politicians so shamelessly indulge in over there - and I suspect that
most americans feel the same way. In my eyes it is far more respectable
to be a simple thief than a religious hypocrit, who says 'Jesus loves
you' and then steals your money and abuses you and your life.
And now let's return to Linux, please.
/jan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Dillon)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 18 Feb 1999 19:33:07 -0800
Gentlemen ... respectfully, *NOBODY* who is interested in not
sparking a flame war should be arguing the merits of GPL verses BSD
verses 'free' in a cross-posted thread.
This reminds me of a sci-fi story I read years ago where a bunch of
bad guys were cooperating with each other but didn't speak the same
language. They had a translator box with them. Unknown to them, the
translator box was putting a good spin on their conversations to prevent
them from killing each other.
So, for example, something like "Take your disgusting alien butt out of
my sight" would be translated to "Sera respectfully requests that she
place her worthless self in the front of the line".
So, please, allow the normal partitioning of newsgroups to function
as it is designed and don't cross post religious postings.
Oh yah, the ending of the story: The good guy sneaks in and removes
the spin filter on the translator. The obvious then follows.
-Matt
--
Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet
Communications
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Please include original email in any response)
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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mail client for Linux
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:40:34 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shaun Lipscombe wrote:
>
> Netscape under linux is about as useless as the windows version.
>
Netscape is fine (version 4.5) under Windows. I've not noticed any
serious bugs. (Hell, I don't think I've noticed *any* bugs, except
the once-a-month failure on shutdown.
>
> It eats RAM, and is slow and buggy. It's 'ok' though, and at least
> its free, but there are 'far' better mail clients for linux: mutt,
> pine etc.
>
Mmm. Pine is scarcely in Netscape's class.
>
> Infact if he is after an HTML composer, web browser and mail/news
> client one application springs to mind: GNU Emacs.
>
ooops! Din't realise I was discussing with a religious bigot.
Cliff
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From: Stephen Richard FREELAND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Looking for a 3270 terminal under Linux Text mode
Date: 19 Feb 1999 03:32:00 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Stephan Burkhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi folks,
: which only works with X11 started, so we cannot use it. Did you ever
: hear about such a beast as a TN3270 emulation that runs under our Linux
: flat ? I have already browsed the BLINUX-LIST, but
: to no avail. Maybe you have a hot link ?
Yep, I have one on my box at home actually (to connect to the
university's ancient IBM 370 mainframe). Go to:
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/network/misc/
And look at tn3270*.
(how-to-fish department: This info was obtained via
http://www.filewatcher.org)
Ciao... . SNF .
--
Steve 'Nephtes' Freeland | Okay, so maybe I'm a tiny itty little
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | bit of a minimalist.
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SCSI CDROM Problem
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:27:11 -0800
On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Pavel Greenfield wrote:
> I can't seem to get my SCSI Toshiba CDRom to work. (It's Toshiba
> XM-5401TA.)
> (I tried >>>mount /dev/hdc /cdrom, and mount would respond /dev/sdc is
try /dev/scd0 - it's definitely not hdc if you have a scsi cdrom
Gerald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Humphries-Dolnick)
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:41:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:
> On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:29:25 -0800, John Smith
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
> >I think I have found a few easy steps for the government to restore
> >competition:
> >1. ban winmodems/other windows only hardware
> >2. require that all drivers be released as open source code (or if it
is
> >windows only..... make ALL specs and source public)
> >3. give a tax cut (major) to companies that port their drivers/software
> >to non-microsoft OS's.
> >4. force m$ to stop threatening the OEM's about increasing the price 3x
> >if they install a non-megalosoft OS.
>
> None of these make particularly good law.
None of them are even close to good law. I'll never understand why people
won't learn a little more about how capitalism is effected under American
law. Oh, yeah... that's right: it's because our government won't better
subsidize their education so they can take some 200-level Economics
classes. Sorry.
Further to John Smith's suggestions; why stop at just partial government
intervention in business? Hmm? Why not just put a government bureaucrat
in a corner office of every software manufacturer in the country? Just
make it so that all new revs of software have to be reviewed and approved
by the Justice Department and FTC prior to development. And, why stop at
software? Let's put the DOJ and FTC at the corporate head of every
company in America!
Yeah! Hey, let's take this a step further... since it's the Government
(via DOJ and FTC) that will be >deciding< innovation for us in the future,
isn't it the people's right to reap the rewards of this innovation? I
mean, since we the taxpayers pay the DOJ and FTC bureaucrats to sit in
corporate offices, shouldn't we benefit when they do something right? SO,
what we'll do is we'll redistribute all corporate earnings to "the people"
-- first, by the U.S. Government capturing all corporate profits, then
eventually the money will trickle down to the working class in the form of
cans of beans and rags of bread!! I think we're on to something here!
--
Michael Humphries-Dolnick
"If opinions are expressed in this communication,
those opinions may not represent those of
my employer."
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From: "Peter Placek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USA Nationwide CAD Software Reseller
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:39:59 +0100
A European software manufacturer of a successful Mechanical CAD system
for Linux and Windows is looking to expand to North America to better serve
a growing clientele. The search is now on for a professional company or an
individual to act as a representative in the United States.
The suitable candidate must be able to promote and sell our CAD system, as
well as to provide training and support to clients.
This is a great opportunity to introduce a quality product to North America
with an excellent earning potential and a chance to grow.
If you are experienced in CAD systems for Mechanical Engineering and posses
excellent interpersonal and communication skills, with a strong commitment
to
establish and support a newly developed company please contact us at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter Placek
VariCAD
www.varicad.com
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can Applixware open Micorsoft Word formatted files (i.e. .doc files)?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:04:33 GMT
What about StarOffice?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Thorne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Help with X related concepts.
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:10:20 -0600
I apologize if one or more of these are considered the wrong group. I
posted a similar question to comp.windows.x and comp.windows.x.i386, but
never got much of a reply.
I'm not new to Linux, but I don't have much experience with X. I have
been wondering a few things about X.
1) What are the advantages/disadvantages of E, WindowMaker, KDE, and
AfterStep (I think I'm leaning toward WindowMaker)?
2) Is there a way to switch WM's while you're in your X session?
3) What exactly is GNOME? I know it's not really a separate WM, but it
still will run GTK themes? How does this work?
4) I know this is objective, but give me your opinions: which WM's are
superior in resource usage, graphical look, and "feel"?
5) I know this is trivial, but I like the "transparent window" look. Is
this possible with any WM?
-G
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From: "TURBO1010" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How to make it run faster?
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:45:50 -0800
Wish they would make some kind of cache on linux, that would improve the
performance.
Dan Nguyen wrote in message <7ab09t$b23$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In alt.os.linux TURBO1010 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: 256M of ram, and 2 processors, and it's still slow as hell. Win98 will
>: smoke linux, and that that it runs on 1 processor.
>
>You have to realize that Windoze load program faster, but benchmarks
>are slower. The only reason Windoze load programs faster is that it
>loads a segment of that program into memory before you decided you
>wanted to use it (ie MSWord).
>
>
>
>--
> Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
>http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
>
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