Linux-Misc Digest #774, Volume #24               Sun, 11 Jun 00 04:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: KPPP problem (kamborg)
  "reiserfs" Anyone? ("Ferdinand V. Mendoza")
  Re: Help! X problem on toshiba tecra 8100 notebook ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: KPPP problem (Rick)
  Re: vote on MS split-up (Rick)
  Re: vote on MS split-up (Rick)
  Re: democracy? (Rick)
  K7 not in Sync ("NewsMail")
  Re: Modem, Soundcard, and Zip Drive Problems (John Hasler)
  Helix GNOME questions... ("Kent A. Signorini")
  Re: Diskette duplication--exactly (fred smith)
  Re: No answer from freewwweb (Was Re: connect LINUX to Free ISPs?) (fred smith)
  Re: Bash shell problem ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Caldera Stalls (Bryce Thornton)
  Re: linux downloads on dos diskettes (James Lee)
  Re: Several window manager questions (James Lee)
  Re: KPPP problem (Jeff Craig)
  Kernel Upgrade Problem (Jeff Craig)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (kamborg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KPPP problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 05:11:24 GMT

If you're running in console (TTY, text) mode then watch the error messages
on TTY00 screen while you're logging on.  If chat is being used, and it's
in verbose mode (-v) you might see what's holding up ppp from connecting.
Or read the same in /var/log/messages

Just needed to say that before I get into this long rant....

On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 03:14:02 GMT, Dan Kulpa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>'noauth' just tells the server that a username and password aren't required
...from the server.  The server usually isn't required to authenticate
to the user.  That's what you meant, right, Dan ?  The missing 'noauth'
gets a lot of people, since the server usually refuses, then bye-bye.

If increasing the time-out doesn't help (seems I had to boost mine from
20s to 30 just because the modems sometimes took that long) then it might
be that 'chat' or its script is misconfigured.  I'm assuming kppp sets
up pppd to use chat in the usual way, although I configured mine more by
hand.  Partly because kppp only had one blank line for the modem-init
string, but I had TWO lines from my Windows ModemLog.txt file so it seemed
safer to use the ones that worked, since I can't read that gibberish.

Anyway if pppd runs the chat command with -v for verbose then the error
messages should tell you something.
If kppp isn't working out then you might just have to:
man pppd
man chat
See the file /etc/ppp/options, and any other files mentioned in it.

good luck, 
kamborg


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From: "Ferdinand V. Mendoza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "reiserfs" Anyone?
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:23:37 +0400

I got the latest Mandrake 7.1 working the other night and
it seems to be more responsive than my 6.0 -still Mandrake.
One thing I notice that in 6.0 the bogomips is approximiately
the same as the machine's megahertz but in 7.1 it has become
double. Anyhow, I don't care much about bogomips as long
as I can discern that the machine's performance is improving.
What I care mos now is having reiserfs working on it. MandrakeSoft
 has included it in this release -7.1 and it's got utilities as well.
When I created the partitions, I tried to make it as a reiserfs
file system -not ext2. After installation, the partitions are still
ext2. Anyone has had experience on this?
Is there a link I can follow for a step-by-step implementation
of a reiserfs?
What I have in mind now is to unmount the mounted partitions and
make a reiserfs fs on those with it's included utility.
I will screw up the current partitions -of course and reinstall the
stuff without reformatting the partitions during install time.
Anyone cares to comment?

Ferdinand


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help! X problem on toshiba tecra 8100 notebook
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 05:34:24 GMT

In article <8hpepp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "porsche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,
>
>     My system is RedHat 6.2 on Toshiba Tecra 8100 notebook.
>     Does anyone have successfully installed X on this machine??
>     the configuration seem don't work with this machine.
>     thanks if someone can tell me how to configure it properly.
>
> porsche
>
>

http://wtsupport.metatec.net/technotes/redhat6.2-tecra8100.txt


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KPPP problem
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 01:47:18 -0400

kamborg wrote:
> 
> If you're running in console (TTY, text) mode then watch the error messages
> on TTY00 screen while you're logging on.  If chat is being used, and it's
> in verbose mode (-v) you might see what's holding up ppp from connecting.
> Or read the same in /var/log/messages
> 
> Just needed to say that before I get into this long rant....
> 
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 03:14:02 GMT, Dan Kulpa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >'noauth' just tells the server that a username and password aren't required
> ...from the server.  The server usually isn't required to authenticate
> to the user.  That's what you meant, right, Dan ?  The missing 'noauth'
> gets a lot of people, since the server usually refuses, then bye-bye.
> 
> If increasing the time-out doesn't help (seems I had to boost mine from
> 20s to 30 just because the modems sometimes took that long) then it might
> be that 'chat' or its script is misconfigured.  I'm assuming kppp sets
> up pppd to use chat in the usual way, although I configured mine more by
> hand.  Partly because kppp only had one blank line for the modem-init
> string, but I had TWO lines from my Windows ModemLog.txt file so it seemed
> safer to use the ones that worked, since I can't read that gibberish.
> 
> Anyway if pppd runs the chat command with -v for verbose then the error
> messages should tell you something.
> If kppp isn't working out then you might just have to:
> man pppd
> man chat
> See the file /etc/ppp/options, and any other files mentioned in it.
> 
> good luck,
> kamborg

The logs all say PPPD started by user 500 Rick ....
and then it times out.

kppp works fine on my laptop.

-- 
Rick
To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 02:05:19 -0400

Smitty wrote:
> 
> "Colin R. Day" wrote:
> 
> > Gerald Willmann wrote:
> >
> > > CNN is conducting a poll whether MS should be split up and if yes into how
> > > many parts. Please take a minute to vote for a good cause.
> > >
> > > -> http://cnnfn.com/poll/microsoft_breakup.html
> > >
> > > thanks,  Gerald
> > >
> > > --
> >
> > Justice is not the product of opinion polls. Besides, I want
> > Microsoft destroyed by Linux, not the DOJ.
> >
> > Colin Day
> 
> Hear! Hear!  Crush them in the market place where they live!
> Smitty

History and Microsft have proven the market cannot kill M$, even when
the market is more innovative.

-- 
Rick
To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 02:09:37 -0400

Jim Ross wrote:
> 
> ajam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Gerald Willmann wrote:
> >
> > > CNN is conducting a poll whether MS should be split up and if yes into
> how
> > > many parts. Please take a minute to vote for a good cause.
> > >
> > > -> http://cnnfn.com/poll/microsoft_breakup.html
> > >
> > > thanks,  Gerald
> > >
> > > --
> >
> > This is like the Soviet Union.  Now that it is not a direct threat, we
> have a
> > zillion people to worry about.  Regardless, if it is M$ or someone else,
> you
> > always are going to have someone controlling most of the market.   I
> prefer
> > to deal with an enemy that I know well, than one that I don't plus a
> zillion
> > creeping everywhere!  My personal opinion is that M$ should be nailed big
> > time, and regulated left and right, but a break up really won't solve
> much!
> >
> 
> A three way breakup would change everything.
> 
> Why the worry?
> If Linux is good, that the most important thing.
> 
> Jim

Go Computing had good handwriting recognition. Microsoft killed Go
Computing. Digital Research had a good DOS replacement. M$ killed that
off too. Good doesnt win against M$ unless there are some other VERY
compelling reasons to go with something else.

-- 
Rick
To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: democracy?
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 02:13:13 -0400

Francis Van Aeken wrote:
> 
> Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> 
> > CNN is conducting a poll whether MS should be split up and if yes into how
> > many parts. Please take a minute to vote for a good cause.
> 
> > -> http://cnnfn.com/poll/microsoft_breakup.html
> 
> The results of these MS breakup polls (consistently 2/3 against) raise some
> interesting questions about the implementation of democracy (in this case in
> the USA).
> 
> Why is it that the opinion of the man in the street doesn't matter (because
> they're stupid, stupid! (?)) and why is it that one single person (the judge)
> is to make the decision? Shouldn't there be at least a panel or a jury?
> 
> Francis.

The general public is highly misinformed about M$'s business practices.
They dont know that M$ has videotaped demos, then written code to
duplicate the screen actions fo that demo, preannouced product to freeze
the market (They did that to Go computing). They dont know aboutthe
stolen code (Apple's quicktime code ended up in Video for Windows, M$
lost in court over that). Add to that that practice of charging less for
Windows if you put it on ALL your shipping computers, instead of just
95%...

M$ is criminally competitive, and the general public doesnt have that
information... Judge jackson does.
-- 
Rick
To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.

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From: "NewsMail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: K7 not in Sync
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 02:13:35 -0000

I installed Red Hat 6.2 on my brand new system:

K7V Motherboard with most recent 1007.01a bios
128 MB SDRAM 133 MHz
K7 700 MHz processor
ATI Rage Fury 32MB graphics card
UDMA-66 Maxtor 20 GB IDE HD

It appears to install in text mode just fine, (although I cannot seem to get
X configured during install, the install seems to die during probes).

After I create the boot disk and Red Hat reboots I get the following error
and cannot go any further:

Disabling CPUID Serial number... general protection fault: 0000
CPU:            0
EIP:              0010:[<c02340fs>]
EFLAGS:    00010282
eax:  00000020   ebx: 07c2d454  ecx:  00000119    edx:  00000001
esi:   00098800   edi: c0106000   ebp: 00000c00    esp: c0233fc8
ds:  0018   es:  0028  ss: 0018
Process swapper (pid: 0, process nr: 0, stackpage-c0233000)
Stack: c0106000 c02344e2 c02143a0 c01d7d0b c02143a0 c0234c7b 07c2d454
07c2d454
            07c2d454 c03b2bac c7fe0000  00000000 c0214460 c0100175
Call Trace: [<c0106000>] [<c01d7d0b>] [<c0100175>]
Code: 0f 32 0d 00 00 20 00 0f 30 68 21 78 1d c0 e8 27 fd ed ff 83
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task - not syncing


Have tried:
Adding a memory=128M line in lilo
Various little bios toggles such as disabling L1/L2 cache, *sigh* to no
avail.

I was able to install Windows 98 on this system, but I only want it to run
linux.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Kimberly Robinson




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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Modem, Soundcard, and Zip Drive Problems
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 03:07:00 GMT

Paul Eisenberg writes:
> Another post mentioned I can use a converter to convert the rpm into a
> deb file, does this matter?

Yes.

> Or can I just use the rpm?

> This is all just very confusing and new to me, and Corel gives a really
> shitty manual for help.

Debian has a RealPlayer installer package: you install the installer
package and it helps you fetch the player from the RealPlayer site and
install it.  Corel, of course, is just a subset of Debian, so this package
should work fine for you.

Add this to /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free

Next run 'apt-get update' as root, and several thousand Debian packages
will appear in your package manager.  Then just find realplayer and install
it.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: "Kent A. Signorini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Helix GNOME questions...
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:18:26 GMT

I have some helix gnome questions:

1) when helix installed, it placed a gnome "menupanel" on the top of my
screen.  nice, but that menupanel has a clock (from gnomePIM) and a
"webcontrol" applet on it.  i want to get rid of both.  HOW DO I DO SO?

2) i know how /etc/skel works for new user skeletons.  IS THERE A SKEL FOR
GNOME DESKTOPS, ETC. so that new users get MY choice of new
desktop/panel/panel menu...?

Thanks.  Please e-mail responses if you could as well as posting them.

Kent A. Signorini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diskette duplication--exactly
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:51:43 GMT

Lee Tien Huat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Dear Sir/Madam,

: How to duplicate a diskette exactly--including everything--disk format,
: timpstamps, file, label ...

: Someone suggest using dd. But I want to know do I need to format the target
: diskette so it has the same format as source diskette. Or dd just copy
: everthing, even the disk format.

Lee:

Using 'dd' is a suitable way to do it.

And the answer to if the target floppy must be formatted first is both
YES and NO...

YES: It needs to be formatted to the same number of tracks/sectors-per-track
as the source diskette;
NO: it does NOT need to contain a filesystem since using 'dd' to copy
a disk onto the new one puts on it an exact image of what was on the 
original, including the filesystem (if any).

So, on  Linux you can format it like this:

        fdformat /dev/fd0H1440

to put a low-level format onto a 1.44 3.5" floppy, and then:

insert the ORIGINAL floppy, then:
        dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/tmp/disk.image bs=1440k
then take out the source disk, insert the (new) destination disk:
        dd of=/dev/fd0 if=/tmp/disk.image bs=1440k
        rm /tmp/disk.image

Fred
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No answer from freewwweb (Was Re: connect LINUX to Free ISPs?)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:54:19 GMT

Andrew Purugganan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: alram83 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: : I connect to freewwweb using pppsetup. Simplifies building the
: : actual scripts by prompting you for the info, and the generated
: : scripts can be modified in any text editor. I inserted the DNS
: : addresses manually in /etc/pap-secrets. My version came with
: : Peanut Linux from metalab.unc.edu/peanut.

: Does freewwweb use PAP CHAP or something? I normally use "EXPECT ogin:" 
: "SEND username" "EXPECT sword:" etc to login to other ISPs, but I saw 
: freewwweb send "System password:" when I was EXPECTing "ogin:"

Yes, freewwweb uses PAP authentication. On RH, the linuxconf setups for
ppp will produce the correct config files (or at least they did for me!).

Fred

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash shell problem
Date: 11 Jun 2000 07:15:03 GMT

Philip Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Yes, the one in the Apache folder is "configure".  However, the one I
: execute is in the "src" folder.  Inside that folder, you will also see a
: file called "Configuration" which is used to stored the config detail.

: BTW, What could cause this problem?  Is there anything missing during my
: installation of Slackware 7.0?

apache compiled fine on slackware 7 for me. You are doing something
wrong and are not telling us what it is. Type "script", do your
experiment, then exit and send us the typescript file.

Peter

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From: Bryce Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Caldera Stalls
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:30:03 GMT

Hi.  I am running Caldera OpenLinux 2.4.  Whenever I try to download stuff 
I get to a certain point and then the download stalls.  I have tried to 
download Helix Gnome and MySQL.  With both downloads I get to a certain 
point in a download and then it says "stalled".  I have waited hours for 
it to start back up but it never does.  Does anyone have any ideas as to 
why this happens.  I have a DSL connection.  I am stumped on this one.

Thanks.

--
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http://www.help.com/

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From: James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux downloads on dos diskettes
Date: 11 Jun 2000 07:32:09 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm a newbie to linux and would like to further my education by
> compiling my own kernel, installing drivers etc. Now to my question.
> The only internet access I have is on a windoze machine. Can I
> download binaries and compiled code using windoze, onto a dos formated
> floppy and then install these files into my linux box to be compiled.
> Buying the hardware to make my linux box internet accessible would be
> a burden right now. Will this work? 

My download directory is /dos1/download. 
Well yeah, seldom use the other OS (but have to keep because of
some stupid places that require it), so might as well make good 
use of unused space.

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From: James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Several window manager questions
Date: 11 Jun 2000 07:38:08 GMT

Krithika Chidambaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) I have got Xfree86 3.3.5 working but only at 1280X1024 resolutions,
> for lesser resolutions I get DISPLAY problems (screen is too large).
> At 1280x1024 its hard read, is there a way to increase the font size?
> or adjust the resolution without the DISPLAY problem. Any other suggestions

Use 100dpi fonts instead of 75dpi. edit the /etc/XF86Config
or the one under the X11 directory (depends on distro, I think)
and move the FontPath line containing 100dpi before the 75dpi line.



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From: Jeff Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KPPP problem
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:58:13 -0400

Rick wrote:

> When I try to connect to my ISP using KPPP, I get a timeout error saying
> the connection timed out waiting for ppp to come up. But, I can connect
> using Uernet/netcfg. Anyoane have any ideas?
>
> Any help appreciated.
> --
> Rick
> To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.

Well Rick,  KPPP has alot of problems.  I was having the same problem you
were, I was never able to fix it.  I would personally suggest looking for
another ppp suite.  I use the pppconfig package to connect to my ISP.  It's
based off of the terminal, but it's straight forward and easy use.

----
Jeff
====================
"The Earth is the cradle of the mind,
but man cannot stay in the cradle forever."
        -- Konstantin Tsiolkovsky



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From: Jeff Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Kernel Upgrade Problem
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:41:12 -0400

Alright people I have a very irritating problem here.

The Distro I'm using (STORM Linux 2000 based on Debian), shipped with Kernel Version 
2.2.14, well, it also

shipped without certain things, like sound, not compiled into the kernel.  I figured I 
may as

well upgrade my Kernel to 2.2.16 while I was doing the recompile.

I was able to configure and compile the thing without any problem.  I then dropped the 
file into my

/boot directory as vmlinuz-2.2.16  I've kept my old kernel in 
/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-storm just in case,

and my lilo.conf file reads the following:

boot=/dev/hda

root=/dev/hda3

install=/boot/boot.b

map=/boot/map

vga=normal

timeout=100

message=/boot/message

prompt

# Default Boot Entry

other=/dev/hda1

    label="Windows"   # I know, it's sad, but I've got to do it

    table=/dev/hda

# Additional Entry: Linux

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16

    label="Linux"

    read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-storm

    label="safelinux"

    read-only

Now the problem is when I run lilo again to reconfigure it.  I get the following 
output:

Added Windows *

Kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16 is too big

Any help would be greatly appreciated

--
Jeff
====================
"The Earth is the cradle of the mind,
but man cannot stay in the cradle forever."
        -- Konstantin Tsiolkovsky




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