Linux-Misc Digest #774, Volume #25               Sat, 16 Sep 00 00:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  umounting depending on login (mike)
  Re: Anyone seen a 'Tux' clothing patch? (Robert Heller)
  Re: URGENT - In deep trouble - deleted groups. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: As of right now I dedicate my life to linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: gnome or kde? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: X-windows newbie question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Packet Loss ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Packet Loss ("Ozone")
  First (Attempted) RH Installation Woes (Michael Figg)
  Re: Packet Loss ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  a few questions ("Trumpy")
  Test (Rombo)
  good distribution for an old NEC P60 (fconte)
  Re: Uninstalling Linux (Tony)
  Newer versions of CDRECORD no longer work... (MH)
  Batch for Linux ("Stuart Mika Hankel")
  Re: Opinions:  An Adequate Starter System? (George W.)
  Re: Batch for Linux (Neil Cherry)

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Subject: umounting depending on login
From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:20:57 GMT


I have a couple people (besides myself) which log onto my machine.  By
default all disks are mounted when the machine is booted up.  I'd like to
fix it so that when these other two log in some of the disks are umounted.
How can I do that automatically?

Thanks...

Mike
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hardymi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas; took the dog - Dorothy






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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen a 'Tux' clothing patch?
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:21:46 GMT

  The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Sat, 16 Sep 2000 00:05:43 GMT, wrote :

TD> There's no comp.linux.clothing newsgroup, so I guess this is where it
TD> goes. =)
TD> 
TD> I've done searches on the 2 Linux 'stuff' sites I know of (can't
TD> remember what they are now, duh), but couldn't find anywhere a simple
TD> Linux 'Tux' clothing patch, which I want to sew onto my hat.  Has anyone
TD> seen any of these available?  I have seen the "Tux hat" on one of those
TD> sites but I'd like to put a patch on my current hat.  Any help would be
TD> great!

Totally radical thought:

        Do you have a color ink jet printer?

        If so, download the Tux graphic of your choice (visit
http://www.linuxdoc.org/links/mm.html#logos for a collection), get a
sheet of iron-on transfer paper and a cheap, white T-shirt.  Use GIMP,
xv, or Electric Eyes to convert the Tux graphic to the size you want as
a postscript file.  Print this on the iron-on transfer sheet.  Iron it
onto the the T-shirt.  Cut the transfered graphic from the T-shirt,
with a generous margin (say 1/2 to 3/4 inch).   Fold the margin under
and sew it to your hat.

TD> 
TD> --
TD> - The Darkener
TD> It is pitch black.  You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
TD> 
TD> 
TD>                           






                                                
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http://www.deepsoft.com              /\FidoNet:    1:321/153

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: URGENT - In deep trouble - deleted groups.
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:27:18 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Madhusudan Singh wrote:
> >Hello all,
> >     I was trying to change the UID of a user on a Red Hat 6.2 system
> >using the KDE User manager, when I deleted the groups accidently.
Now the
> >system is unable to boot up. I have not so far tried to login as
linux
> >single. But if that is possible, can I do something to undo the
damage ?
> >Recreate all the groups. As of now, many daemons do not start up -
identd
> >and httpd being some of them. And the run level 5 does not work.
>
> Booting :
> - Try booting into single mode
> - try at the lilo prompt
>   linux init=/bin/sh
> - try booting from the rescue disk
> - try booting from a live CD-ROM
> - try booting from a floppy distribution like http://www.toms.net/rb/
>
> The first two methods should give you access to the /etc
> directory. The last three : you need to mount the partition
> with the /etc directory.
>
> Then you should be able to create the file /etc/group
> on one RH 6.2 here it looks like :
>
> root::0:root
> bin::1:root,bin,daemon
> daemon::2:root,bin,daemon
> sys::3:root,bin,adm
> adm::4:root,adm,daemon
> tty::5:
> disk::6:root
> lp::7:daemon,lp
> mem::8:
> kmem::9:
> wheel::10:root
> mail::12:mail
> news::13:news
> uucp::14:uucp
> man::15:
> gopher::30:
> ftp::50:
> nobody::99:
> users::100:games
> floppy:x:19:
> pppusers:x:230:
> popusers:x:231:
>
> Then the custom entries start. You may want to compare this
> to your installation sources.
>
> >     One related question. I had earlier changed the UID of some user
> >to a six digit number (primarily to permit NFS access) and the user
> >account created did not show up on the linuxconf panel. A listing
of /home
> >indicated a user "54053" instead. Does it mean that Linux cannot
handle
> >high UID's ?
>
> I have a 5 digit UID.
>
> Andreas
>
> --
>                        Andreas Schweitzer
>              http://dilbert.physast.uga.edu/~andy/
>         This post is brought to you by VIM, slrn and FreeBSD
>

I am not a linux expert but I've had to restore a damaged linux OS many
time.

I remove the hard drive and insert any hard drive that has linux
installed on it. If you do not have one, then you can take an old junky
hard drive and install linux.
Place your original linux hard drive on the primary as a slave or as a
secondary as a master hard drive. This is a hardware issue of simply
placing both hard drives on the computer-- one as the master and the
other as a slave. If you don't know how to do this then post the
question and most people can tell you.
When you're logged in the junky hard drive, mount your original hard
drive to any folder. Example:
mkdir /org-hd
mount /org-hd /dev/hdb7
ls -l /org-hd/etc/
vi /org-hd/etc/group

A few lines need to be adjusted to your computer.  First, if you have
scsi hard drive, then use /dev/sdb7 instead of /dev/hdb7
If hdb7 (or sdb7) is not where your /etc/ folder is located then try a
different mount such as hdb5 or hdb6, etc.  You can find all the others
by:
ls -l /dev/hdb*
ls -l /dev/sdb*

btw, I've never been able to see the etc folder with the ls command,
even though it's really there.  You just need to find the right mount.
Usually it will be 7,5,9, but could be anywhere from 1 to about 16.

best luck,
Paul_L


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: As of right now I dedicate my life to linux
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:32:52 GMT

In article <8prda9$m1o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As of right now I dedicate my life to linux
>
> This is it, I am sick of windows and I am removing it from all my
> computers. for years I been using linux and unix on and off. but not I
> am going to learn linux and become a pro.
>
> If anyone can please email me some tips, comments or help. please do
> send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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>

I agree with you!!  I know that linux is not for beginners and takes
awhile to become good at but once you really learn what's going on in
it and where everything is and how to use it you will find that there
is extreme freedom and flexibility in it.  With windows things are
simpler for a beginner but once you get into any trouble you have your
arms tied, relative to linux.
Although to take advantage of linux it's best to know some basic
programming such as perl, which isn't all that difficult to learn once
you get some basic perl code and step through it to see how it works.

I love linux!

Paul_L


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: gnome or kde?
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:39:17 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm going to install Redhat's Linux 6.2 on my PC. As far as I
understand
>
> I'm going to have to choose either gnome or kde as my GUI.
> Which should I choose? I was looking for some kind of  advice in
> Redhat's docs but couldn't find any satisfying comparison with pros
and
> cons.
>
> Thnx
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

I'm not a redhat fan as I've been hacked countless times with it, but
with linux mandrake 7 I like kde a lot more.
btw, mandrake's highest security mode rules!!! I've never been hacked
since.  Although I here there's even a higher security mode if you
install expert mode called "paranoid"

Paul_L


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: X-windows newbie question
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:36:20 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Patton Echols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is quite a newbie question I'm sure.  If the answer is rtfm,
could
> you please point to the right "fm"?
>
> I've spent just about forever getting an XF86 server to run (RH 6.1,
> 486DX 66, w/ evergreen upgrade chip and 24meg -- not that it matters
> much, it's working now)  On running startx, Gnome windows manager runs
> as expected.  I don't understand, however, the relationship between X
> and Gnome and KDE.  I assume that Gnome must be running to run Gnome
> Programs.  Same for KDE and KDE Programs.  What about Programs that
are
> supposed to run under "X"?  Are gnome or KDE needed for these?  If
not,
> how are they invoked?  Seems to me I need an X-windows primer of some
> kind, but if it is in the documentation on the CD, then I completely
> missed it.
>
> Any thoughts?
>

X windows is great but make sure you turn off remote access unless you
want a world of hackers on your system.
I don't run xfs unless I have to so I don't recall the parameters to
xstart that turns off remote access.
Maybe someone here can tell you.

Paul_L


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Packet Loss
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:45:45 GMT

In article <1Qgw5.4295$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Bluezz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello I have a Red Hat linux box that has been humming along nicely.
All of
> a sudden
> I am getting 80% packet loss on average.  I have tried changing
network
> cards,
> recompiling the kernel (stripping out most uneeded drivers) and also
even
> changing the actual computer (motherboard, memory, etc).  The cables
were
> also tested and it was concluded that they are fine.   The only
conculsion I
> have
> come to is that is must be some sort of OS issue.  I am running only
Linux
> on
> kernel 2.2.13. Could someone tell me how this could all of a sudden
happen,
> but most of all how can I debug this ???
>
> Thanks in advance for your help !
>
> Regards
> T
>
>

You mentioned you recompiled kernels and hardware but have you
completely installed the OS?

I have spent months of my time batteling hackers on redhat 6.1 and have
tried countless steps of security against them but they keep managing
to get in.  Now I use linux mandrake 7 as recommended by my guru linux
master and have not been hacked once.
don't under estamate hackers! they're insane but amazing in their
abilities.  have you noticed any new installed programs on your system?
one of my hackers installed a custom sniffit program that was causing
packet losses with my dns server.

best wishes,
Paul_L


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From: "Ozone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Packet Loss
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 02:06:03 GMT

Have you checked the network hub or switch you are hooked up to.  It could
have failed.

- Tony -

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8pujc4$b5a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <1Qgw5.4295$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Bluezz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello I have a Red Hat linux box that has been humming along nicely.
> All of
> > a sudden
> > I am getting 80% packet loss on average.  I have tried changing
> network
> > cards,
> > recompiling the kernel (stripping out most uneeded drivers) and also
> even
> > changing the actual computer (motherboard, memory, etc).  The cables
> were
> > also tested and it was concluded that they are fine.   The only
> conculsion I
> > have
> > come to is that is must be some sort of OS issue.  I am running only
> Linux
> > on
> > kernel 2.2.13. Could someone tell me how this could all of a sudden
> happen,
> > but most of all how can I debug this ???
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help !
> >
> > Regards
> > T
> >
> >
>
> You mentioned you recompiled kernels and hardware but have you
> completely installed the OS?
>
> I have spent months of my time batteling hackers on redhat 6.1 and have
> tried countless steps of security against them but they keep managing
> to get in.  Now I use linux mandrake 7 as recommended by my guru linux
> master and have not been hacked once.
> don't under estamate hackers! they're insane but amazing in their
> abilities.  have you noticed any new installed programs on your system?
> one of my hackers installed a custom sniffit program that was causing
> packet losses with my dns server.
>
> best wishes,
> Paul_L
>
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 22:16:32 -0400
From: Michael Figg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: First (Attempted) RH Installation Woes


Hi,

Tried to install Red Hat 6.2 commercial boxed version on a
Compaq Notebook. It seemed to boot from the CD giving me
an installation choices screen (graphical, text, etc). I choose
graphical and that's the last I saw of my computer. The screen
quickly turned bright white and then slowly faded to a dark
screen. I now cannot boot from floppy, HD or CD. THe display
adapter is a Trident CyberBlade i7 which I found later was not
on a list of supported diplays.

Have I fried the BIOS or the display, or possibly both? I had
(hopefully still have?) Win98 and Boot Magic installed, hoping
to have a dual boot environment.

Any advice would be very welcome?

Thanks,
Michael Figg


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Packet Loss
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:28:28 -0500

On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:

> In article <1Qgw5.4295$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Bluezz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[ snip ]

> I have spent months of my time batteling hackers on redhat 6.1 and have
> tried countless steps of security against them but they keep managing
> to get in.  Now I use linux mandrake 7 as recommended by my guru linux
> master and have not been hacked once.

You can achieve the same level of security in ~ANY~ Linux distribution.

> don't under estamate hackers! they're insane but amazing in their
> abilities.  have you noticed any new installed programs on your system?
> one of my hackers installed a custom sniffit program that was causing
> packet losses with my dns server.

I think you have hackers and crackers confused.

Regards,

anm
-- 
print map y="= = && $_ => <"\bJust>   =>
                       => <"Another>  =>
                       => <"Perl>     =>
                       => <"Hacker\n> =>


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From: "Trumpy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: a few questions
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:55:26 -0500

Hello whoever reads this.  This message is more of a list of things which
are keeping me from using Linux as my primary OS.  I have been using SuSE
Linux (6.3 and 6.4) off and on for a little while now.  I don't like
Microsoft products any more than anybody else here, but for now Windows is
what I have to use to get what I want out of my computer.

Now I HAVE worked on solving the "problems" listed below.  Please do not
think I'm not putting any effort into this.  I have read through many help
sites and books.  Perhaps my problems come from a misinterpretation of the
proposed solution.
Here goes...

==============
I have a Lexmark 5700 printer.  It does not appear on any basic printer
setup list.  On the SuSE CD's there is supposed to be some kind of utility
to get this printer working.  Despite my best efforts, I cannot get it to do
anything.
==============
Is there any application to copy mp3's to a Diamond Rio 300?  I fear this
will never happen now that S3 owns Diamond and they don't seem to care much
about Linux anything.
==============
Quake3.  This is very important.  Has id Software released anything so you
can use the Win32 CD?  If not, where is a good place to get the Linux
version cheap?
==============
I cannot seem to get my microphone working in Linux.  I would really like it
to work so I could use dialpad (www.dialpad.com/).  I have an old ISA
Creative Labs SoundBlaster 16, which gets automatically configured when I
install SuSE 6.4
==============
What is the best program for ripping CD's to MP3's under Linux?
==============
How well does Netscape 6 beta2 run under Linux?  Is it worth installing
this, or should I just be content with Netscape 4.whatever?
==============



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From: Rombo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Test
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:58:43 -0400

Test

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From: fconte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: good distribution for an old NEC P60
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 03:26:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was wondering what would be the best distribution to install Linux on
an old NEC P60? The machine doesn't have much memory but I'd like to use
them as servers. 
Please email as well as post.
Thanks
Frank

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From: Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Uninstalling Linux
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 03:28:33 GMT


Hima Parimisetty wrote:
> 
> Hi ,
>   I have a Dell PC with both linux and Windows '98 on different 
partitions 
> of the hard disk. I wanted to unistall linux completely and format  the 
> linux partition back to FAT file system .I did the following:
>   1)Removed LILO by 
>  booting into MSDOS and FDISK /MBR
>   2)Then deleted the Linux  partitions with the help of linux install CD.
> Now the hard disk is like this :
>   one partition with(FAT) windows'98(primary partition)
>   second partition with out any file system.
> 
> Now the pc boots straight windows'98 ,but what i'd like to know is 
> how to stretch the FAT partition to encapsulate the whole hard disk with 
> out losing data on my FAT partition ?
> 
>  If i have to use dos fdisk,what option should i use? I just want to 
make 
> sure i don't destruct the data on  FAT  partition.
> 
>   Your help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> TIA,
> Hima.
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> http://www.help.com/

Hima
  There is no way to use FDisk to extend a partition.  What you are trying 
to do is able to be done with partition magic or a simalar program.
  Another alternative is to backup the fat32 partition to tape or evan 
another hard drive then re make the drive partitioning with FDisk.  Copy 
everything back.
  Either way FDisk will not extend partitions.

Tony


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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newer versions of CDRECORD no longer work...
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:34:27 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I used CDRECORD once some 6 months ago to burn a CD and it worked
perfectly.  Since then, I've reinstalled my system a number of times and
managed to lose the original RPM.  I downloaded and installed two
different, but recent versions, but get an error for some unknown
reason. Input/output following:

# cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=6,0 redhat-6.2-i386.iso

Cdrecord release 1.6.1 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 J�rg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '6,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 6 lun: 0
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg6'.

I got the same error with version 1.9.1(?)  Anyway, what is "/dev/pg6"
and why is it trying to access this device?  Why am I getting "No such
file..." when the file DOES exist?


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From: "Stuart Mika Hankel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Batch for Linux
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 03:41:00 GMT

Hello. How can i make a batch for Linux?
I've heard that i can make a 'script'. It's the same like BAT files for DOS?
How can i generate it? What's the extension?
I need to program two command line orders.

Thanks for your help.
Stuart



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From: George W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Opinions:  An Adequate Starter System?
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 03:58:13 GMT

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 05:52:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bento
Loewenstein) wrote:

>On Sat, 20 May 100 03:35:11 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>
>>I have the opportunity of picking up a mini-tower Pentium 133 machine 
>>(Intel VX motherboard) with a 250W PS, 3 gig IDE HD, 4 Meg Matrox 
>>video card, generic sound card, 64 megs 60ns RAM, 56k Winmodem, which 
>>will be 86'd in favor of an external real 56K modem; 12x CD-ROM 
>>(bootable), and a 1.44 floppy.  It has Windows98 currently installed, 
>>which will be wiped completely before installing Linux.
>Nice hardware for learning purposes.
>
>>
>>Also, any suggestions on the best Linux distribution for the neophyte?  
>>That is, no brains required installation, works well enough the first 
>>time, tweeking and fiddling can wait until later.  I am considering 
>>Debian, but the Stormix distro seems better, install and setup-wise.  
>
>Avoid Debian and Slacware if you're new to Linux. This distros are suposed
>to be used by experienced users. They're extremelly hard to install and
>configure, and most of the administrative tasks are done by hand. RedHat
>is a breeze to install if compared with Debian and Slack, and it has
>linuxconf as default admin utility, which makes it easyer to maintain.
>SuSe has a similar tool called Yast and Caldera has COAS wich are very
>easy too.
>
>If you want an easy distro based on Debian Corel is Ok. It's one of the
>easyest I've ever seen. Another option is the brazilian distro Conectiva.
>It's based on RedHat, but is as easy a Corel to install, and comes with
>liunuxconf too.
>
>
>Bento.

The best advice I ever got as a newbie:  Make sure you can still dual
boot to Windows 95/98.  It's invaluable when troubleshooting if you
can see if some piece of hardware works in Windows but not Linux, or
vice-versa.  Plus, if you don't get all the documentation that came
with the hardware (or if there never was any documentation), windows
can do a good job if discovering hardware configuration, IRQ settings,
etc.

Just my two cents-

Still A Newbie


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Subject: Re: Batch for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 04:02:45 GMT

On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 03:41:00 GMT, Stuart Mika Hankel wrote:
>Hello. How can i make a batch for Linux?
>I've heard that i can make a 'script'. It's the same like BAT files for DOS?
>How can i generate it? What's the extension?
>I need to program two command line orders.

I take it you are new to Linux, but that is alright. There are no
extensions that must be used. Though it is common to see a shell
script written with a '.sh' ending.

To create the equivalent of a shell script simply put your commands
into a file, one on each line. Once the file is created you can chmod
the file (ex. chmod 755 myfile.sh). If the files path is in your $PATH
then you can type just the command and it will execute (assuming the
commands you are using are also in your $PATH). Otherwise you will
need to give the full path to the file.

Do a man on bash (man bash) and it will give you the commands and
options that are built into sh. It's not a tutorial but you should be
able to find that with a search engine.

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