Linux-Misc Digest #955, Volume #24 Tue, 27 Jun 00 18:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: StarOffice 5.2 :-( (Joost Andrae)
Re: no internet connection with a dial-up in WinLinux (The Darkener)
Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s* (Andrew Onifer)
Re: copying a newer kernel to an existing installation ("David ..")
database benchmarks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive (Lou)
Re: Linux freeze when running at 500 Mhz (Rafael)
no-hlt question (Rafael)
Re: can't install linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: removing soft links (Robie Basak)
Gnome vs KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Chinese character viewer/editor for Linux (Barry Phease)
Re: ASF on Linux? ("David ..")
Full System Restore (Brian Helm)
Re: Gnome vs KDE ("Robert")
Re: Gnome vs KDE (Philip Chapman)
restrict logintime (Daniel Schramm)
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From: Joost Andrae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 :-(
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:01:20 GMT
Hi Rafael,
why don't you use type1 fonts ?
Just set your locale and start StarOffice...
eg.
start X
open a xterm
type the following string into your xterm:
export LANG=3Dpl_PL.ISO8859-2
start soffice
Regards, Joost Andrae
> Hej!
> I was waiting for new version of StarOffice with big hope that I can u=
se
> Latin2 True Type fonts (easter Europe). But Sun disapoited me, I still=
> can not use Notional True Type fonts.
> I have still use Windows as a my primary computer, becouse the problem=
> with national fonts.
> Rafael
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:29:53 -0700
From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: no internet connection with a dial-up in WinLinux
Your post is very confusing. "I am able to dial out with my 56K modem, but
from there I can't connect to the internet." You can dial out where, to your
ISP? To a BBS? To your mom's house? =) If you mean you can connect to your
ISP but you can't "get on the web" by typing in www.yahoo.com, your DNS
configuration is most likely screwed up. Get your Internet Provider's DNS
servers' IP addresses and insert them into the DNS servers' fields in kppp (or
whatever dialer you're using). Or, insert them into your /etc/resolv.conf
file as:
---
search
nameserver xxx.yyy.zzz.www
nameserver aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd
---
(Blatently ripped off from one of Dances With Crow's posts =) )
If it's something else, then let us know.
chewie8han wrote:
> I am able to dial out with my 56K modem, but from there I can't connect to
> the internet. I'm running WinLinux 2000 with KDE. Is there something I'm
> not setting up? If so what? This is the only thing really stoping me
> from running Linux(as we all know Windows sucks!)
> Thanks
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Onifer)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s*
Date: 27 Jun 2000 19:45:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:12:09 -0230, Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>1. vi --- Is it spelled out or spoken "Veye"...
I spell it out, others say the word.
>2. GNU --- Is it spelled out, or pronounced "New"...
You are officially supposed to pronounce the G. http://www.gnu.org
>3. Linux --- Leee-nucks, Len-nucks, or Lie-nucks(How does Linus say
>it?)..
Linus pronounces it "Leenooks" (he's Finnish). I think that would translate
to "Linnux" without the accent. There is no "official" pronunciation,
though.
>4. SQL --- Is it spelled out, or pronounced "Sequel".. I've heard
>both..
I spell it out.
>5. Daemon --- Is it demon, or daymon...
Demon. It's actually how demon was originally spelled.
>6. TCL --- I've heard it called Tickle...???*s*
Couldn't tell you.
>7. pico --- Is it pee-co or pie-co...??? (Hey, I've used it
>too)...*s*
I say "peeco."
>1. Why is Unix-based systems referred to as *nix based systems when
>linux and various other versions end in "ux"...???
Because *n[iu]x takes too long to type. Actually, I think it has to do with
the fact that Unix is a trademark.
>2. Is FreeBSD linux or not...??? When I ordered all the distributions
>from <www.linuxmall.com> I was sent FreeBSD with all the other
>distros...
FreeBSD is not Linux. Some say it's better. I say it's a matter of taste
(I run both).
>3. Does the POSIX standard dictate the directory structure of *nix based
>systems (usr, home, bin, etc, var et cetera...)...??? If so, where can
>I get a copy of this POSIX standard...??? What else does the standard
>dictate...???
Don't know.
>4. Does the sysvinit program install the 'login' and 'sulogin' programs
>when it is installed itself...??? I know the 'init' process activates
>and respawns these programs, but is the 'login' and 'sulogin' programs
>part of the sysvinit distribution...???
>
Well, the SysVinit rpm for Redhat has sulogin, but not login. That doesn't
mean much, though.
>5. Does anyone but me use 'pico'...???*smile* Getting used to 'vi' is
>just killing me...!!!*s*
I use pico for email on my unix account at work, but not otherwise. Text
editor preference is almost entirely subjective. Use what you find most
useful. That said, vi is a powerful editor if you can learn enough of its
commands. That said, I mostly use emacs-like editors, I guess because I
like playing Finger Twister more than changing modes.
jay
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--Crow T. Robot
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: copying a newer kernel to an existing installation
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:32:46 -0500
Christoph Kukulies wrote:
>
> Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : How do I have to proceed, when I did a Linux (RH 6.1) installation
> : and I want to exchange the kernel on the hard disk afterwards (because
> : the installed kernel 2.2.12 panics - it is an SMP machine and
> : I have working SMP kernels lying around on other machines)
>
> I tried dd if=bzImage of=/dev/fd0
> and rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda1
> afterwards.
>
> This boots fine from the floppy but then panics because kernel can't
> find init. It suggests to use the init= option.
>
> How do I get the init= option attached to such a dd'ed bzImage?
>
> : --
> : Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
> Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At the boot prompt enter:
linux root=/dev/hdaX
where the X would be the correct root partition.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: database benchmarks
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:47:50 GMT
Anyone know where I can find some tpc (www.tpc.org) benchmarks for
databases which run under linux, eg. oracle, sybase, mysql,...?
Speed and cost comparisons is what I'm looking for.
I couldn't find any linux benchmarks at www.tcp.org
I'm very curious to see just how these dbms' stack up on linux
versus other operating systems, eg. windows, solaris, etc.
-Adnan
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From: Lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:30:05 GMT
here is my situation. I have a 10 gig hard drive which is running windows
right now. I am going to install a new 30 gig hard drive. I want to
install the new drive and setup a dual boot system with windows 98 and
caldera openlinux edesktop 2.4. I want windows to run on the big drive
(which I want to be the master drive) and linux to run on my older,
smaller drive (the slave which is now my only drive. what is the best way
to go about doing this? how do I switch the drives to make the computer
recognize my big drive and not the little one as the master? how do I
install linux on ONLY the smaller drive? help!
lou
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux freeze when running at 500 Mhz
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:51:40 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hej!
I have the same problem With my Amd K6-III, when I set to 2.4 Volt it run at 40 C,
but when I set to 2.8 it run at 55 C but than it not hang.
Rafael
Stefan Soos wrote:
> St�phane Marguet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > First excuse me for the cross-posting.
> > But Linux run fine at 333 Mhz and freeze at 500 Mhz. It's running fine (well
> > , it's running as usual) on windows !!
> > So it's or a problem of speed or of temperature. No ??
> >
>
> Hi,
> just for reference. I'm running an AMD-K6/2 500 at 40�C.
>
> One year ago I had a similar problem. I could run windows (even playing games)
> but linux refused to boot. It was a hardware failrue. The processor was
> completely toasted.
>
> HTH,
>
> Stefan
>
> p.s. Follow-up-to set
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: no-hlt question
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:17:49 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If your computer hangs sometimes. And when yoou run kernel with no-hlt
option it stop hanging. What the problem could be? Motheboard,
processor, memmomory, harddrive etc?
It could work some minutes without hanging, the procesor have no hlt
bug. So what the problem?
Rafael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: can't install linux
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:30:45 GMT
both the swap and the ext2 are below 8gb, even below the 2gb border (2nd
and 3nd logical volume),
claus
bIn article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Florian E.J. Fruth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote in <8j9fsg$lgi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I have a 13 GB hdd on a quite old computer which bios only
recognizes
> > 7.8GB. As soon as I have a partition over 7.8 gb allocated, I can't
> > install linux (suse and red hat). the strange thing is, that red hat
> > recognizes all partitions correctly but if I want to partition with
> > fdisk, the pc hangs. When partitioning with partition magic in
winnt4.0
> > and then mounting the linux partitions in the redhat install routine
and
> > pressing next causes again the pc to hang. I know, that some "old"
> > or os which call the bios for the size of the hdd have problems
> > installing onto a hdd > 8GB (like win9x, winnt4.0 prior sp4 or
os/2). is
> > there a way to solve this problem. I don't want to throw away all
the
> > data over the 8gb (Beos and win2k caused no problem at all when
> > installing). I fussed around almost half a day with OS/2 warp 4 and
> > ended up with a second hdd and a primary partition. I really don't
want
> > to have to do this with linux too. so please reply, hopefully there
is a
> > way,
> > claus goettfert
>
> have u tried to set the linux partition below 8gb and windoze above ?
> perhaps if u haven't it could solve your problem...
> fejf
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: removing soft links
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Jun 2000 20:40:29 GMT
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:31:38 -0600, Phil Reardon said:
>Recently I made a soft link by going into the target directory and
>issuing ln -s /home/myhome. How can I delete this link, without
>removing or loosing the stuff in myhome?
You can type:
rm /here/is/your/link
That removes the link, not the file it points to. If you're not
exactly sure what I mean, test it first by experimenting with a newly
created link :-)
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:09:05 GMT
Hi,
Should I spend time getting used to KDE or Gnome? I tried both and I
can't say I developed definite preference. Which desktop most people
use? I've heard KDE is considered to be more promising (with KDE2 to be
released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?
Thanks
Wroot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry Phease)
Subject: Re: Chinese character viewer/editor for Linux
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:19:10 GMT
On 27 Jun 2000 16:51:34 GMT, James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tan Chee Sin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anyone know if there a Chinese character viewer / editor for Linux?
>> Thanks.
>> At the moment, I do not want to install a completely Chinese Linux.
>
>I use cxterm, celvis, because I use vi.
Emacs can be made to work with Chinese characters.
Has anyone tried kde version 2? How well does this handle Chinese?
Barry Phease
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.es.co.nz/~barryp
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASF on Linux?
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:09:33 -0500
Dmitri V wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I need to play back some video clips, which were recorded in M$ ASF
> format. I tried Netshow for Linux from FreeBSD distro, but it seems to
> be somehow obsolete, as it does recognize my ASF files as ASF files
> (i.e. does not swear at them), but says, that an appropriate codec has
> not been found.
>
> I tried to search many places like deja, google, freshmeat, etc., but
> have found nothing relevant.
>
> Does anybody know some solution? Maybe, it is possible to convert ASF,
> say, to AVI or MPEG? I have a Windoze box available, so it would suffice
> if I could just convert a bunch of ASF files into something recognizable
> on a fairly commonplace Linux box.
>
> I also tried Wine, but it does not want to launch a Wndows Media Player
> installer, it asks for something else, which does not seem to be freely
> downloadable.
>
> Please, help me, if somebody knows how to do that, your help will be
> greatly appreciated!
ASF is a proprietary software file format which has been patented. It
can not legally be reverse engineered to work due to those patents. This
is another M$ innovate & destroy tactics. M$ wants to be the "ONLY"
software manufacturer and takes big steps to do this by not being
compatable with other OS's and/or programs.
Best of luck.
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From: Brian Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Full System Restore
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:30:03 GMT
I performed a full system backup using 'tar' and backed up every thing
from '/' on down. I went to perform a full system restore using the same
tape and the system totally froze up when attempting to restore
the /lib/ld-2.1.2.so and /lib/ld-linux.so.2 files.
Is there a way to boot and run a kernal that will not utilize any
libraries on the hard drive so that I can complete my full system restore?
What happens if a hard drive totally crashes? Must you first install the
OS from the CD-ROM and restore selected file systems?
Doesn't make any sense. What is the point of backing up the full system
then.
Help!!!!!
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Reply-To: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:32:22 GMT
u gonna start a religous war....
i know that KDE has been around a lil longer than GNOME.
i use KDE and i have the GTK+(for gnome) libs installed - thus
every (if not most) GNOME/GTK app should run on top of KDE.
i'm sure the vice-versa is true, but i never tested it.
its really a matter of preference, i suppose.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8jb552$v9g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Should I spend time getting used to KDE or Gnome? I tried both and I
> can't say I developed definite preference. Which desktop most people
> use? I've heard KDE is considered to be more promising (with KDE2 to be
> released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
>
>
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From: Philip Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:36:35 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Should I spend time getting used to KDE or Gnome? I tried both and I
> can't say I developed definite preference. Which desktop most people
> use? I've heard KDE is considered to be more promising (with KDE2 to be
> released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Flame bait? :) Actually, to use one or the other is more of a
preference thing than any other reason. Both are very good.
Development of both are coming along quite nicely. I think that for
most users, KDE is a little more Windows(ish) but can be configured to
look and operate however best suites you.
RedHat has backed gnome in the past because licensing of the qt
libraries (on which KDE is based) was not open source (Which, also is
the reason I originally chose gnome & have never had a reason to
change). I *think* that the licensing has been opened up in the last
year or so and so RedHat now includes KDE on their distro's. As I
understand it, Mandrake was created because someone wanted RedHat with
KDE. However, RH has put a *lot* of manpower and support behind gnome,
and I figure it'll remain RH's default for a while yet at least.
You don't have to choose one over the other, really. Gnome applications
will run under any X window manager as long as the proper libraries are
installed. Same goes for kde applications. I use KMySQL on my
Enlightenment/Gnome desktop quite often because I haven't found a gnome
application that fits my needs as well as it does.
Note: Much of this message is my opinion and facts as I understand
them. If I'm wrong, correct me and I'll gladly change my evil ways. No
need to flame! ;-)
--
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IT Manager for Alliance TeleSolutions
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From: Daniel Schramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: restrict logintime
Date: 27 Jun 2000 21:48:10 GMT
Hello.
I want to restrict the total logintime per day for specific groups of users.
A User belonging to the first group schould be able to use the Workstation
for 15minutes per day
A user of the other group should be kicked of after a total of 30minutes in
between 8am und 3pm.
The rest of the day this user should be able to login without restrictions.
Does anyone know a program for this job?
Thanks
Daniel
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