Linux-Misc Digest #75, Volume #25 Sat, 8 Jul 00 16:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: online = $$$ ; offline = $$$$ TOO ("Q")
Re: Sawfish weirdness (Andrew Onifer)
Re: Question about ls (Andrew Onifer)
Re: Case sensitive (Vilmos Soti)
Re: Routing problem for Internet access (Robie Basak)
Re: is there a port to windows media player? (C.J.)
Re: is there a port to windows media player? (Mike Frisch)
ISDN-connection ("Franzi Oktoberfest")
Re: Colour depth of X (Dances With Crows)
Re: Internet backup services for Linux ("Matt O'Toole")
Problems with CD Writing with CDRDAO (Jeroen Kransen)
Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. (C.J.)
Re: is there a port to windows media player? (C.J.)
Re: Question about ls ("Platinum Dragon")
Re: Question about ls (Erik Max Francis)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Onifer)
Subject: Re: Sawfish weirdness
Date: 8 Jul 2000 17:35:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 08 Jul 2000 07:42:14 -0500, Cpt Dondo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I upgraded to the latest gnome release and now I am experiencing something
>weird.
>When I shade a window, it leaves a thin border outlining the full window.
>It is as if the window becomes transparent, with the frame still visible.
This is an issue with sawfish themes written for sawfish < 0.29. Something
got changed in the shading mechanism. I don't know how you would fix it by
hand, but you could try looking in sawmill.themes.org for updates or
emailing the theme's author about getting it fixed.
jay
--
"The movie really heightens the lack of interest in the film"
--Crow T. Robot
Andrew J. Onifer III [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.bigfoot.com/~aonifer/ PGP key on WWW page
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Onifer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Question about ls
Date: 8 Jul 2000 17:37:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 08 Jul 2000 15:41:27 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tandem Guy wrote:
>> Hello. I'm a pretty new linux user and I'm having trouble using the
>> command ls. I would like to search the current directory (or some
>> arbitrary directory for that matter) and ALL subdirectories located
>> under it for the existence of a given file, but I can't make that
>> happen.
>Use the "find" command. Do "man find" to learn about it.
>The command you want would be something like this:
> find . -name *.zip
Correction: It should be
find . -name "*.zip"
Without the quotes, the asterisk will get passed to the shell.
jay
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Andrew J. Onifer III [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Case sensitive
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 17:43:55 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) writes:
> How could I make Bash not case sensitive?
I am afraid you would have to do plenty of modifications to the source.
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Routing problem for Internet access
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 8 Jul 2000 18:00:36 GMT
On Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:55:49 -0700, Marcm said:
>But why can't the NT box route through the Linux box onto the net, and get
>responses back from the net? Shouldn't you be able to do this just with a
>static routing table entry or two? Why can't you send the request from NT to
>the Linux box, which then forwards it to the ISP and onto the net, then
>replay all the way back to NT?
OK. Let us say that your NT box is using the IP 172.17.10.100 on the
internet, and your Linux box is 212.66.152.156 on the internet.
Your NT box wishes to connect to www.yahoo.com (216.32.74.50, but
there will be others; let's use this one for this example). It sends a
TCP SYN packet (a single packet) with the headers in the packet
including source as 172.17.10.100 and destination as 216.32.74.50.
The NT box looks at it's routing tables. As it doesn't find anything
that matches, it sends this packet to the Linux box, which is set as
the default gateway.
The Linux box has routing enabled, and forwards this over the
internet unaltered. Let's now assume that the packet does, in fact,
reach 216.32.74.50 (in reality, it should be dropped by your ISP's
router if it is configured correctly with egress filtering).
216.32.74.50 replies with a SYN+ACK packet (I think, I don't have the
TCP specs to hand :-)
The source of this packet is 216.32.74.50, destination 172.17.10.100.
Now, however, no routers on the internet know which way to send this
packet - where is 172.17.10.100? What if a whole bunch of people
decided to do their net access the same way; then you'd have multiple
computers with the same IP address - then which way do these replies
go to?
(This is why your ISP's router should be set up to only permit packets
coming in to the router from your line which match the IP addresses
you have been assigned; unfortunately many do not)
Basically, then, this means a computer which sends packets out into
the internet _must not_ have private IPs; they may confuse routers
and will not work. IP address _must_ be properly assigned to you if
you use them on the internet at large (and it's a good idea to use
10/8, 172.16/12 or 192.168/16 only for private use anyway, just in
case you want to connect later).
See RFC 1918 at http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1918.html, or your
favourite RFC archive for more information about this. An exerpt
(relating to the use of already assigned IPs, not specifically private
ones):
For a variety of reasons the Internet has already encountered
situations where an enterprise that has not been connected to
the Internet had used IP address space for its hosts without
getting this space assigned from the IANA. In some cases this
address space had been already assigned to other enterprises.
If such an enterprise would later connects to the Internet,
this could potentially create very serious problems, as IP
routing cannot provide correct operations in presence of
ambiguous addressing. Although in principle Internet Service
Providers should guard against such mistakes through the use
of route filters, this does not always happen in practice.
Using private address space provides a safe choice for such
enterprises, avoiding clashes once outside connectivity is
needed.
IP Masquerading on the Linux box causes the kernel to modify the
source of outgoing packets to the IP of the Linux box (216.32.74.50),
and to remember that that packets corresponding to that particular
connection should have the destination set back to 172.17.10.100 when
the replies are sent.
So, check out the IP Masquerading HOWTO at http://linuxdoc.org to set
it up on your computer, or if you just want access to the web, install
squid, available at http://www.squid-cache.org.
Robie.
>"Robie Basak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Sat, 8 Jul 2000 05:09:17 -0700, Marcm said:
>> >I have a Redhat 6.0 Linux box that I connect to my ISP via a 56K USR
>> >external modem using "pppd" and "chat". This works great and provides me
>> >with an IP address. I can ping anywhere on the web, though I haven't
>> >connected to my ISP's nameserver yet so I must always use IPaddresses.
>> >
>> >I have a second PC that is running NT Server 4.0 and is connected to the
>> >Linux box via a network card and hub. It can ping the Linux box. What I
>want
>> >to do is have the NT box browse the web via the Linux box, (ie: pass
>through
>> >the Linux system to the internet). But my routing is not right.
>> >
>> >QUESTION: How do I set up routing to accomplish this?
>> >
>> >Here is the setup of my system:
>> >
>> >NT box: 172.17.10.100, mask 255.255.0.0, default gateway 172.17.10.116
>> >Linux box: 172.17.10.116, mask 255.255.0.0, (default gateway
>172.17.0.1???)
>> >The default gateway of the Linux box was set up automatically when I
>> >installed Redhat, but the default gateway of the Linux box shouldn't
>matter
>> >here, (should it?).
>> >When I attach to the internet I am assigned address 216.66.152.156 on the
>> >PPP with a mask of 255.255.255.255.
>> >
>> >On the NT box I cannot ping anything on the net or the 216.66.152.156,
>> >therefore I do the following "route add" command at the dos prompt:
>> >
>> >route add 216.66.152.0 mask 255.255.255.255 172.17.10.116
>> >
>> >After adding this route on the NT box I am then able to ping 216.66.152.0
>as
>> >well as 172.17.10.116. But I cannot ping any other address on
>216.66.152.0
>> >or the internet, (the ISP-assigned address is actually a Class 'C', ie:
>> >216.66.152.0 mask 255.255.255.0). At this point in my testing I am
>pinging
>> >the ISP over the PPP interface going out the modem on the Linux box (from
>NT
>> >across my LAN) because I get a reply from 216.66.152.0, (am I right?).
>> >
>> >How can I get my NT box to ping anything on the net rather than just the
>> >single IP address of the ISP (ie: 216.66.152.156)?
>>
>> You can't have your NT box hanging around on the net with an IP of
>> anything unless that IP has been assigned to you by your ISP (which, I
>> assume, it hasn't).
>>
>> You can use IP Masquerading to have your Linux box dynamically switch
>> around IP addresses so that NT appears to have Linux's IP when on the
>> net - see the IP-Masquerading HOWTO at http://linuxdoc.org for
>> information on how to set this up.
>>
>> However, if you just want web access, it is easier to install a proxy
>> server like squid (http://www.squid-cache.org) on the Linux box, and
>> set the NT web browser to use the Linux (ethernet) IP as the proxy.
>>
>> Robie.
>> --
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: is there a port to windows media player?
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:14:19 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
>>
>> Short answer: No, there is no port of "Windows Media Player".
>> Microsoft has not (and probably will not) port this commercial product
>> to the Linux environment.
>>
>> However, there are Linux packages that provide similar or identical
>> functionality. You have been referred to some of them.
>>
>>
>
>??
>That part of the thread I must have missed. By identical functionality,
>do you mean "can handle streaming audio?" Certainly xmms can do it with
>mp3, and real can do it with .ram's. But, do you mean 'can handle .asp
>files? THAT would be news! :-)
Why? The sound quality of .asp sucks seriously.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Frisch)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: is there a port to windows media player?
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:21:55 GMT
On Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:14:19 GMT, C.J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Why? The sound quality of .asp sucks seriously.
Perhaps, but there are plenty of .asp only sources on the net. My local
radio station only supports Windows Media Player which leaves me high and
dry in Linux.
The great thing about standards is that there's so many of them...
Mike.
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From: "Franzi Oktoberfest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ISDN-connection
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 20:29:33 +0200
I have with SUSE 6.4 my Teles ISDN card configured and get no error messages
anymore. But when I start Netscape and try to load a webpage it tells me
that it can't find the server. I guess I have to start an
internet-connection first but how???
I feel that this is a silly question but still I can't solve it.
Please help me so that I can send my next question via Linux and not via
Windows. ;-)
Thanks
Franz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Colour depth of X
Date: 08 Jul 2000 14:36:04 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:33:39 +0100, John J. Lee
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
shouted forth into the ether:
>What's the easiest way to switch colour depth? I think there's a command
>line switch for the X server that does that, but I'd have to figure out
>exactly what goes on (in Red Hat) with prefdm, kdm, the X Server, etc etc
>to find a good way of setting this on start up of the X Server.
>
>Why is there no equivalent to C-A - for this?
Switching color depth requires restarting X, and probably the easiest way
to do it is to change one line in /etc/XF86Config. I have a line that
says "DefaultColorDepth 32" in the "Screen" section.
Since recent graphics cards can all handle 1024x768@32-bit, I don't think
support for switching color depth on the fly will be added to later
releases of X. You can also have one X-server running at 16-bit on one
virtual console, and another running at 32-bit on another virtual console,
but that burns up a lot of RAM.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet backup services for Linux
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 11:21:49 -0700
"Bev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thanks for saving me the time! Real shame that so few providers of slick
> free services don't see fit to make them available to linux users. What
> are we, cheap low-life scum? Uhh, never mind...
Especially when it's so easy to do with Java, etc., since virtually all mass
market browsers on all platforms are Java enabled. Palm Pilots, etc., as
well. So, these morons are just shooting themselves in the foot. It
wouldn't be too hard for a competitor with a better idea to bury their sorry
asses...
Matt O.
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From: Jeroen Kransen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with CD Writing with CDRDAO
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 20:40:28 +0200
I want to write audio CDs without the 2 seconds gap. Now I saw that
CDRDAO is made for this. I grabbed the audio tracks, and created a
toc-file. When I do a 'cdrdao simulate toc-file' it says
'ERROR: Initialization of SCSI library failed: Bad file descriptor'
Now I know something of file descriptors in C programs, but what am I
doing wrong here?
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 19:02:54 GMT
In article <ePd95.85661$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Doesn't Dialpad.com run on the browser in a java virtual machine? Will it
>not run on Netscape?
>
>At any rate, I always have a couple nodes that dual-boot into W98 for just
>such occasions.
According to thier help section, though it is a java applet, it takes
advantage of some Windows-specific features/device-drivers and will not work
on anything other than Windows. They say they have a Mac version under
developement, but NONE of the PC-to-phone sites I have found have Linux
support and if they mention it at all it's about how to configure IPMASQ, or
to say that they have no plans to support Linux.
I wish dial-pad.com would work with the Linux community to get some kind of
support, even if it were something that had to be installed. Lets face it,
a great many of us are either cheap, or are working-stiff types that will take
advantage of a chance to save money if we can.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: is there a port to windows media player?
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 19:17:09 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mike Frisch) wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:14:19 GMT, C.J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Why? The sound quality of .asp sucks seriously.
>
>Perhaps, but there are plenty of .asp only sources on the net. My local
>radio station only supports Windows Media Player which leaves me high and
>dry in Linux.
Yeah, I have to conceed on that one. My favorite local radio station also
only uses .asp format. Wonder why so many ppl are using .asp when the sound
quality is so poor. Is MS giving the .asp server away with IIS now too?
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From: "Platinum Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question about ls
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 19:43:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tandem Guy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, everyone else has posted the obvious, correct solutions. Now, I'm going
to muddy the waters just to get on your nerves:).
You can do ls -lR . | grep "down" as well as find and locate. This will do a
recursive directory listing, pipe the output through grep and display any lines
with the word "down" in them. I use a command similar to this to determine
which people in my course are using my university's mail server - at least,
until they cut off telnet access.
There's More Than One Way To Do It:)
Mark
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From: Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Question about ls
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 12:55:19 -0700
Tandem Guy wrote:
> I've read the man page for ls and it
> wasn't much help. the '-R' option seems promising, but it didn't do
> anything for me. I tried 'ls -lR *down*' but all that returned was
> zerodown, the file in the top directory.
Others have pointed out that find is your best, most portable, option.
If you're using zsh, there's a really easy way to do this, as zsh
supports recursive globs:
ls **/*down*
> On a related note, what
> exactly does '-R' do?
It recurses directories. Passing it *down* globbed only the directory
entries with `down' in them, which included no directories, and so ls
had nothing to recurse.
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