Linux-Misc Digest #75, Volume #27 Sat, 10 Feb 01 11:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: WEb Cam for Newbi ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Peter T. Breuer")
Help with LILO ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: I need software recommendations: (Tom Badran)
Re: qt programs compiling (Tom Badran)
Re: linux - palm (Tom Badran)
Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour. (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=)
Re: Help with LILO ("Eric en Jolanda")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Karel Jansens)
Re: linux - palm ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problem with a shared library. (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (John Hasler)
Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour. ("Stefan Monnier "
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Re: ftp betwixt windoze and linux? (*Rotten_168*)
Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour. (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Re: Help with LILO ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: ftp betwixt windoze and linux? (Michael Heiming)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WEb Cam for Newbi
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:04:54 +0100
Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a working (at least it did once in the Linux box, I saw it) Grand Cam
> Video capture card BTTV based, a good cam, Panasonic SVHS (broadcast
If it's a bttv (but you mean bt848?), then you need to load the driver
(bttv?) driver and run xawtv. That's "all".
> I think, given what me friend did to get it running the one time he did,
> that the (driver? kWinTV?) software is not programming the card inputs
You have to configure the driver.
> correctly. I know my friend tweaked some code someplace then 'rebuilt'(?) it
> several times in order to get it to show something. It's this that I am
> trying to get working. I find it difficult to justify going out and getting
How are you trying? See the appropriate howtos in case of need.
> Has anyone used a BTTV card on Linux?
Millions.
> Has anyone set up a web cam using a BTTV card?
I don't know what you mean. A bt card needs a driver. If it's a capture
card and not a tv card, then I'm not absolutely sure that the bttv
driver is the appropriate one, but I believe it is - you will have
to point it at the "camera" input, perhaps, using xawtv.
> I'd prefer to run it without using Xwindows if possible but first I'd like
It's not really possible without X, since it is a graphical capture
card, so you need graphics! At least for setup.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:14:56 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> Amazing as it may seem, I usually manage to grasp the beginnings of an
> understanding of about 5 to 10% of what is written in an article or
> book about cosmology. I usually end up with the question: "Why?" (*)
> There seem to be only two valid answers to this question:
> 1. Everything possible also happens, or the axiom of parallel
> universes. If there really is an infinite number of them, the entire
> question Why? becomes meaningless and the existence of God indeed
> unnecessary (but see below).
The next supertheory apparently resolves the parallel universes
possibility, but I don't understand (or recall) how. I think that
it works out that the observer is involved, somehow, and the parallel
universes only reflect free will in the math. Ask someone else.
> 2. There is a purpose to it all.
> Against 1.: Serious cosmologists do not like parallel anythings at
> all. They apparently muck up things to no degree. Besides, the basic
> premises for the existence of parallel universes seem to preclude any
> positive knowledge about them, so we're back to square one anyway. And
> finally, a truly infinte number of parallel universes would
> necessarily bring God back into play. Think about it.
No .. there are infinite amounts of anything (points on a real line ..)
everywhere you look. These might or might not be mental constructs only.
> 2. Against 2.: It is not good science.
I think that's sufficient reason to seriously doubt it. I'd rather
have beliefs that I can test with tools. It's not good to believe that
your program satisfies the specification and tell the customers that
your faith is enough.
> I like 2.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help with LILO
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:17:18 GMT
Hi, i recently bought SuSE Linux 7.0 and i can't install it. I already
have Win98 and i want to be able to do dual boot. I created a Linux
primary partition (/) from cylinder 650 to 1225 but it gives me the
message that the partition won't be able to boot by itself or something
like that. What should i do? Should i install Lilo at MBR or what?
My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanx.
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From: Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need software recommendations:
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:02:49 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Rotten_168* wrote:
> for:
>
> A decent GUI-based mail/newsreader (as in all-in-one) like
> Outlook/Netmail/Agent for Linux. I've used the Mozilla and Netscape ones
Oulook decent - Dangerous is a better word? Use kmail and knode from kde2,
they kick the pants out of anything for windows.
--
Microsoft is not the answer, its the question.
And the answer is no. www.badran.co.uk
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From: Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: qt programs compiling
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:12:06 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You got the right version of qt?
--
Microsoft is not the answer, its the question.
And the answer is no. www.badran.co.uk
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From: Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux - palm
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:15:10 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I use pilot-link now, I don't use jpilot because I find GUI's to
> limiting. I use a couple other usefull utilities as well, let me know
> if you'd like to hear about them.
> Just thought jetsync looked interesting so I think I"ll work on the
> build problems this weekend.
Oh, i thought you just wanted software that worked, didnt realise you had
it good. On your point about GUIs, kpilot is looking very promising,
especially as it integrates with korginizer etc. But its only the 2.1
source tree, so you have to upgrade to a beta to get it to work.
Yeah, i would like to hear about these other utilities, i didnt realise
there were any.
--
Microsoft is not the answer, its the question.
And the answer is no. www.badran.co.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=)
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour.
Date: 10 Feb 2001 13:30:17 +0100
On Fri, 09 Feb 2001, Thaddeus L. Olczyk wrote:
> On 09 Feb 2001 20:04:45 +0100, in comp.emacs you wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 09 Feb 2001, Thaddeus L. Olczyk wrote:
>>
>>
>>Suppose you have an entry
>>
>>emacs.geometry: 3x4+10+20
>>
>>in your ~/.Xdefaults file. Then "emacs" will use it, but
>>"emacs-20.7" will not.
>>
> It's not in ~/.Xdefaults I already checked there.
The entry need not be in ~/.Xdefaults. The X server searches in many
places. See the environment variables XUSERFILESEARCHPATH,
XAPPLRESDIR, XFILESEARCHPATH, and possibly others. (That's where
`appres' gets the information from.)
`xrdb' reads from the server itself. You can call `xrdb' to enter
resources into the server from anywhere, I don't know of your setup.
kai
--
Be indiscrete. Do it continuously.
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From: "Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with LILO
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:40:09 +0100
> Hi, i recently bought SuSE Linux 7.0 and i can't install it. I already
> have Win98 and i want to be able to do dual boot. I created a Linux
> primary partition (/) from cylinder 650 to 1225 but it gives me the
> message that the partition won't be able to boot by itself or something
> like that. What should i do? Should i install Lilo at MBR or what?
> My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thanx.
Don't multipost!
read col.setup
Eric
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:59:06 +0100
Adam Warner wrote:
>
> Hi Karel,
>
> > There seem to be only two valid answers to this question:
> >
> > 1. Everything possible also happens, or the axiom of parallel
> > universes. If there really is an infinite number of them, the entire
> > question Why? becomes meaningless and the existence of God indeed
> > unnecessary (but see below).
> >
> > 2. There is a purpose to it all.
>
> <snip>
>
> This has to be the most fascinating Linux thread of all time ;-)
What can I say? I'm a sucker for a lost argument.
> I'll just
> throw this link in that I came across last year:
> http://www.johnenderby.mcmail.com/
>
> In particular this article:
> http://www.johnenderby.mcmail.com/everything.htm
>
> I found the article impressive and would like to hear comments from those
> who have studied it.
>
I'll read them. I promise. But not just now.
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
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"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux - palm
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:25:53 GMT
Take a look at par, this allows you to extract records from a pdb file,
I've found it usefull, look for it at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also txt2pdbdoc, the title is self explainatory, I don't remember where
I got it, I'm sorry to say, but I'll be happy to send it to you, it's
not large.
Carson
In article <963bb9$n1m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I use pilot-link now, I don't use jpilot because I find GUI's to
> > limiting. I use a couple other usefull utilities as well, let me
know
> > if you'd like to hear about them.
> > Just thought jetsync looked interesting so I think I"ll work on the
> > build problems this weekend.
>
> Oh, i thought you just wanted software that worked, didnt realise you
had
> it good. On your point about GUIs, kpilot is looking very promising,
> especially as it integrates with korginizer etc. But its only the 2.1
> source tree, so you have to upgrade to a beta to get it to work.
>
> Yeah, i would like to hear about these other utilities, i didnt
realise
> there were any.
>
> --
> Microsoft is not the answer, its the question.
> And the answer is no. www.badran.co.uk
>
--
Carson R. Wilcox
Senior Architect
DMR Consulting Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with a shared library.
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:42:55 -0500
Oliver Wiegand wrote:
>
> Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> >
> > When I try to download a .tsv file with Netscape (that will be imported
> > by Applixware), I get the following message from Netscape:
> >
> > Gtk WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module-path:
> > libmetal.so
> >
> > This library definately exists:
> >
> > valinux:root[/usr/lib]# ls -l /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 40482 Aug 1 2000
> > /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so
> > valinux:root[/usr/lib]# file /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so
> > /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object,
> > Intel 80386, version 1, not stripped
> > valinux:root[/usr/lib]#
> >
> > I have recently run depmod -a, but that does not seem to help, because
> > depmod does not look in /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines unless I add the
> > line
> >
> > path=/usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines to /etc/conf.modules. If I do that, it
> > gets all bent out of shape because some of the other files in that
> > directory are not .so files. I tried putting a symbolic link to the
> > required module in /usr/lib and running depmod again. That does not hurt
> > anything, as far as I can tell, but it does not solve the problem.
> >
> > What next?
> >
>
> depmod looks for dependencies of kernel modules, not for your libraries.
> Gtk-modules are no kernel modules,so forget about depmod.
I realize that now. I was desparate and hoping that would have something
to do with the problem. I now realize it was a blind alley.
> ldconfig updates /etc/ld.so.cache, where your libraries are
> "registered".
But, obviously, that has nothing to do with the problem either, since
putting /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines into /etc/ld.so.conf and rerunning
ldconfig -v does not help either.
So what do I do so that Netscape does not complain anymore?
I.e., HOW DO I GET /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines INTO THE module_path THAT
Netscape IS COMPLAINING ABOUT?
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 9:35am up 12 days, 18:03, 3 users, load average: 3.26, 3.20, 3.12
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:52:31 GMT
Stefan Ohlsson writes:
> I know the atheists have a theory that man will develop to a super-man
> that can travel back in time and will create it all. That's the simple
> version anyway. I know, sounds weird.
Who are "the" atheists?
Steve Mading writes:
> Are you being deliberately silly?
Well, it isn't as silly as the old guy with the beard.
Stefan Ohlsson writes:
> No, I heard it on a lecture about religion. Did I get it wrong? Then
> please correct me.
Looks to me like you read it in a science-fiction novel.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour.
Date: 10 Feb 2001 10:09:21 -0500
>>>>> "Thaddeus" == Thaddeus L Olczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I was not familiar with this version of these commands and sure enough it is
> there!
If by `there' you men "in xrdb's output", then it comes from some file
whose content was explicitly loaded into your Xserver with another
call to `xrdb'. This is often done as part of the login process
with something like `xrdb ~/.Xresources', so you might want to check
if you have such a file.
Stefan
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From: *Rotten_168* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp betwixt windoze and linux?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:39:25 GMT
Bill Parker wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have RH6.2 on my laptop... I have it networked via a ethernet card to a
> hub, likewise my desktop PC. What Iwant to do is transfer files betwixt them
>
> I can ping each machine, but if I try and ftp from linux to windoze, I get
> "Connection refused"
>
> If I try and ftp from windoze to linux, ftp explorer, or even the ms-dos ftp
> command, starts to dial up the internet i.e. it tries to connect via the
> modem, rather than the ethernet card
>
> Any tips, clues, hints on how I can xfer files between the two machines?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Bill
Linux can write to FAT16 so you could try making an adequately sized
FAT16 partition on your Windows machine.
--
Rotten168
=============================
http://rotten168.home.att.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour.
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:49:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10 Feb 2001 10:09:21 -0500, "Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> "Thaddeus" == Thaddeus L Olczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I was not familiar with this version of these commands and sure enough it is
>> there!
>
>If by `there' you men "in xrdb's output", then it comes from some file
>whose content was explicitly loaded into your Xserver with another
>call to `xrdb'. This is often done as part of the login process
>with something like `xrdb ~/.Xresources', so you might want to check
>if you have such a file.
>
No such file, I did a 'ls -a ~' and looked for anything that might be
used for resources ( even checked various ~/.subdirs ). Is it possible
that xrdb keeps a persistent database somewhere ( I believe it does so
with Solaris, I often have problems with the rdb being out of sync
with initialization files on it ) that gets loaded at login?
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with LILO
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:56:02 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, i recently bought SuSE Linux 7.0 and i can't install it. I already
> have Win98 and i want to be able to do dual boot. I created a Linux
> primary partition (/) from cylinder 650 to 1225 but it gives me the
> message that the partition won't be able to boot by itself or something
> like that. What should i do? Should i install Lilo at MBR or what?
You should read the "something like that" more carefully. It claimed
that you were boooting from above the 1024 cyl limit, as you yourself
just stated.
> My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Groovy. Well, stelios, you should make a boot partition (for the /boot
directory) that is below the 1024 cyl limit or you should read the
instructions that come with your distro or you should install a
distro that comes with a loader that doesn't have that limit.
Peter
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Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 17:04:41 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp betwixt windoze and linux?
Bill Parker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have RH6.2 on my laptop... I have it networked via a ethernet card to a
> hub, likewise my desktop PC. What Iwant to do is transfer files betwixt them
>
> I can ping each machine, but if I try and ftp from linux to windoze, I get
> "Connection refused"
>
AFAIK win ? doesn't come with ftpd, you just get a small ftp client deliverd
from Redmond.
>
> If I try and ftp from windoze to linux, ftp explorer, or even the ms-dos ftp
> command, starts to dial up the internet i.e. it tries to connect via the
> modem, rather than the ethernet card
>
Sounds like a wrong routing setup, try with
tracert
from MS-DOS box where your packets go.
You should be able to ping your boxes with name and IP before you go on.
Try
route -n
on your Linux box if you can ping your winbox from Linux routing is OK, try to
adjust the
routing on your win-box.
>
> Any tips, clues, hints on how I can xfer files between the two machines?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Bill
There are many ways, I would try samba.
www.samba.org has docs how you do this. On your win box
you have to setup access for your data, then you can mount it from Linux.
apropos smb should show you the available man pages on this topic on your Linux
machine
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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