Linux-Misc Digest #91, Volume #26 Fri, 20 Oct 00 15:13:01 EDT
Contents:
initrd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Could I ask for some directions? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: No more PTY's for screen 3.09.08 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux cdrecord DESPERATE!!! (Minya Liang)
Re: Gnapster 1.3.10 (Doug Angus)
Multihead and efm/gnome/file management (Alex Deucher)
Re: MIcrosoft's web site won't quite work with Netscape (NAVARRO LOPEZ,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Manuel)
Exceed with DHCP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (NAVARRO LOPEZ,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Manuel)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (NAVARRO LOPEZ,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Manuel)
Re: recovering data from tape (-ljl-)
Re: Increase RAM in RedHat Linux (Tim Hockin)
strange compilation error (me)
Interoperability of SSH2s? (-ljl-)
Problem with Software-Raid1 (Thomas Witkowski)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Brian V. Smith)
Apache and authenticated logins help please ("Alvaro Muir")
Re: help to delete file(hosts.allow,hosts.deny ) (Ian Danby)
Re: Linux PDA ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (NAVARRO LOPEZ,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Manuel)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Garry Knight)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: initrd
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:01:19 GMT
I am running into the All of your loopback devices are in use! message
when I try to make an initial ramdisk to boot my 2.2.16-22 kernel. I
have an all scsi system and so need the ramdisk. I know others have run
into this problem before and found solutions, though no one seems to
have posted one in any of the linux forums. Any help would be
appreciated...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Could I ask for some directions?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:29:23 +0100
psshop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Yeah, I'm what some would call a 'newbie' to Linux. Could some of you
> 'gurus' point me someplace that has some good Linux fundamentals? I've seen
> a lot of places that profess to help the newbie, but they explain things
> without explaining them. Know what I mean?
> They'll give a big speech on loading drivers or something, but then they'll
> mention all of these obscure config files and .so files. What the heck are
> those?
Simple really... config files are... well... files that stores all the
configuration options for a program. Global ones are in the /etc directory.
Almost all linux config files are in pure ASCII human readable format.
.so files perform the same basic function as windows .dlls. They're shared
libraries (blocks of code used by many different programs at once).
> Any good books or URLs that you can suggest would be great!
I think there's a Linux for Dummies book that might go into things simply
enough. (I never bothered with things like that though, cos I don't see any
personal value in it).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No more PTY's for screen 3.09.08
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:33:56 +0100
Salim Qadri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Welp... I checked every thing in the screen directory and did not find
> anything relating to an old or new pty interface. regardless, this
> still does not work, and I know of someone else who has the same
> problem.
I did have a problem with screen a while back...
Can't remember what it was exactly, (it might've been no more ptys).
I finally got it working by using the -a switch...
Hope that helps.
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From: Minya Liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux cdrecord DESPERATE!!!
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:32:24 -0400
i used kernel2.2.14 and cdrecord 1.9, with a yamaha 8824ez
i was able to burn 3 CDs successfully then i started to have similar
problems and cdrecord crashes halfway - it all happened suddenly without
any upgrade.
later on i was able to burn some more without error. i suggest the
following guidelines
- minimize system load, if you have a LAN, make sure there is no sudden
network activities due to other computers (i do this by turning off the
only other computer on my LAN)
- clear CDWriter's buffer ( i don't know how to ensure this, though Ray
told me you could short two pins on the IDE connector, but i was not brave
enough to try. what i do is give the CDWriter some time - a couple of days
- between successful burns, and hopefully the buffer will be cleared.)
- do at least 2 but no more than 3 successful dummy writes before the real
thing
- pray when the laser is on
there is still no guarantee even if i did all these that the CD will not
be trashed. but it definitely boosted my success odds.
hope this helps,
minya
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Douglas E. Mitton wrote:
> Have you changed anything on your system since you last had several
> successful CD burns? For instance have you updated your distribution
> or kernel? What distribution are you using?
>=20
> When I updated beyond kernel 2.2.13 I can no longer make reliable
> burns. I am using a Creative 6424 drive.
>=20
> On 17 Oct 2000 20:59:31 -0700, TTS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>=20
> ># cdrecord -version
> >Cdrecord 1.9 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J=F6rg Schillin=
g
> >
> >kernel 2.2.17 with SCSI emulation.
> >
> >HP 7200i drive
> >
> ># hdparm -t -T /dev/hda
> >
> >/dev/hda:
> > Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.37 seconds =3D 93.43 MB/sec
> > Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 12.77 seconds =3D 5.01 MB/sec
> >
> >All the suden I cant do one single good CD, even from a ISO image!!!
> >
> >Writing time: 2317.990s
> >Fixating...
> >cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryab=
le error
> >CDB: 5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> >status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> >Sense Bytes: F0 00 05 00 00 00 00 19 00 08 3A 02 2C 04 00 00
> >Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
> >Sense Code: 0x2C Qual 0x04 (current program area is empty) Fru 0x0
> >Sense flags: Blk 0 (valid)
> >cmd finished after 0.009s timeout 480s
> >Fixating time: 0.059s
> >cdrecord: Input/output error. mode select g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable er=
ror
> >CDB: 55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00
> >status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> >Sense Bytes: F0 00 05 00 00 00 00 19 00 08 39 E0 24 00 00 00
> >Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
> >Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0
> >Sense flags: Blk 0 (valid)
> >cmd finished after 0.004s timeout 40s
> >cdrecord: fifo had 21775 puts and 21775 gets.
> >cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 21633 times full, min fill was 97%.
> >
> >Only the writer drive can read this semi-coasters!!!
> >
> >It is P-III 800 with 256Mb RAM.
> >
>=20
> ------------------------------------------------
> The FACTS are my Employers, OPINIONS are my own!
>=20
> Sorry: SPAM reduction project in progress:
> Remove the "x." from my domain to reply!
> ------------------------------------------------
>=20
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From: Doug Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnapster 1.3.10
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:38:47 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I forgot to mention that I've just downloaded and set this program up a
few days ago - so I imaging it has something to do with the set-up.
Doug Angus wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Seem to be having trouble with gnapster 1.3.10 - it's always giving me
> "Napster query server reported all servers were busy" at all times of
> the day.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks, Doug
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Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:53:00 -0400
From: Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Multihead and efm/gnome/file management
I'm using Xfree 4.0.1 with Xinerama and multihead and enlightenment
(0.16.5) as a window manager.
Everything works fine with Xinerama, but I would perfer to run in
multihead mode (i.e. NOT Xinerama) however, there are issues with the
second head. I would like to run gnome, but it does not seems to run
too well in multihead mode (works fine in xinerama).
(Xinerama has other issues: no 3d, videos will not play on the second
head)
The only WM i can get to work in multihead is E. Which works ok, but
always complains when I start it on the second head that there is
already a WM running on it (other WM's do this too, but then fail at
that point), it does however start after that. I can start gmc on both
heads separately, but it starts to do strange things and I can't have a
separate setup on each monitor, they have to be identical.
So, my question is, is efm multihead capable? Would it allow me to have
separate setups on each head? Is there any good file management setup
that supports multihead?
I tried efm in the 0.0.0 days, but haven't tried since. Is it dependent
on E0.17, or can I use it with E 0.16?
Thanks,
Alex
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From: NAVARRO LOPEZ, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Manuel
Subject: Re: MIcrosoft's web site won't quite work with Netscape
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:55:36 +0200
Hi Leonard:
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> I am running Netscape 4.75 under RH 6.2. When I try to access
> Microsoft's website, I get a blank page. The problem seems to
> be Javascript. If I turn it off, I get the web page, but
> certain options are not available. I was trying to search for
> a driver to download. There is a line starting "Search" where there
> should be a box or an area to type something, but it isn't there.
>
> Are there any conjectures about whose fault this is? Is
> Microsoft running a non standard version of javascript so
> that only IE will work with it? Or is there a bug in Netscape's
> javascript.
>
> This is one instance in which I must say I don't believe in the
> "free market". GOVERNMENT should tell these people they have to
> use compatible protocols and not try to shut each other out.
> Nobody else is going to do it.
>
Hmmm... someone else said he was able to go in www.microsoft.com without
problems, with a configuration more or less the same as you, so it migth
be a problem in your box.
Still...
I don't understand what your problem really is: microsoft is a private
company and www.microsoft.com is one of their owned resources, so I
would say they can limit who go into their site and who don't by any
legal means at hand. Probably you wouldn't talk about government need
of control if M$ decides to ask for money to visit their site, or if the
gorilla forbides you to go in the disco because he doesn't like your
face. They're simply on their rigth to do so (indeed, using
non-standard practices seems to me more a shoot in their own feet than
something that should worry you... unless you hold stock options from
M$, of course ; ^D )
> Of course, many of you will say I shouldn't be bothering with
> the MS website in the first place. But sometimes one doesn't
> have a choice if one wants to work with other people who use
> their products.
>
Well, then *you* still have some options:
either
1/ look for other people to work with
or
2/ if you need information about M$ products you probably are a
programmer for M$ environments or a sysadmin with boxes using their
products, in any case you'll have legal licenses of their products (or
you should, if only for testing purpouses) so you can have IE and use it
to go into www.microsoft.com no matter how non-standard their site is.
> If the politics works out so Microsoft can kill the Justice
> Department suit, this is of course the biggest threat to Linux.
??????
To date the USA Justice Department has applied no punishment to
Microsoft (migth be tomorrow) so M$ stands with all its stength and has
been within this environment (which would be neither better nor worse
than the one after an hypothetical M$ winning the suit) when Linux
started from nothing to the point it is today, so I don't feel this
should be a threat to Linux at any rate.
> Microsoft can so corrupt all the standards that only its products
> will work. Us Linux users will be stuck in our own ghetto where
No more no less than "They Windows users would be stuck in their own
ghetto"
> we can play with interesting and innovative software, but we will
> increasingly be cut off from the rest of the world.
Duh!!!
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Jes�s
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Exceed with DHCP
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:54:55 GMT
I am using Exceed to access my Redhat Linux Desktop. It works great if
my PC uses a static IP address. If I use dhcp it doesn't work. Any
advice?
Thanks,
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From: NAVARRO LOPEZ, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Manuel
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:11:41 +0200
Haoyu Meng wrote:
>
> U need to read a whole book to understand how to use Latex. I am in the business
> of writing books using computers. I don't want to have to learn programming to
> do that.
>
OOOOAH, That's funny indeed!!!! So, your are "...in the business of
writing books using computers" but still, you're not expected to know
the tools to do so????
Well, I'm in the bussiness of driving Formula1 race cars. I don't want
to have to learn the use of the manual changer for it.
(Is it called "changer"? I mean the bar to change the engine
de-multiplication relationship, contrary most USA cars work with
authomatic changer)
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SALUD,
Jes�s
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From: NAVARRO LOPEZ, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Manuel
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:30:27 +0200
Praedor Tempus wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:25:05 GMT, Haoyu Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >U need to read a whole book to understand how to use Latex. I am in the business
> > >of writing books using computers. I don't want to have to learn programming to
> > >do that.
> >
> > You have an exceedingly unprofessional attitude regarding your tools.
> >
>
> What does THAT mean...that one should HAVE to learn programing in order
> to
> write papers?
>
By no means. All you have to know is your mother tongue, the art of
writing, some papers and a pen. But look at some sligth difference you
have introduced between your first and this post:
A/ I am in the business of writing books using computers
B/ What does THAT mean...that one should HAVE to learn programing in
order to write papers?
You see? (I'll make it even clearer)
***I'M IN THE BUSSINESS*** / ***USING COMPUTERS.***
Ahaaaaaa
You need to know the proper tools to write on papers (the use of the
pen) => You need to know the proper tools to write on computers
> What nonsense. The writing is secondary to the work, unless one is a
> journalist.
> If one is a scientist, your job is to do science, not learn
> typesetting. Your
> scientific WORK is what matters most and it is a waste of time and
> effort to
> learn something that isn't needed just to write about it.
>
Ahaaaaaa even another slighty (geeee) difference. One thing is
*writing*, that is, one letter after other. For this you don't need any
special training, just open notepad (if a windows environment) and shoot
a letter and then other, and a *very* different one is *typesetting*
which, from the Age of Guttemberg to-date has been a proffessional
occupation, which obviously requires a variable trainning (from using
the mobile types print to *look at this!!!* programming various
special-purpouse languages like TeX).
Obviously the main job of a scientist is to do science, so he will need
to learn science (whatever this means); the main job of a "typesetter"
is typesetting, so he will need to learn typesetting. If the scientist
wants to do the work of a typesetter, he will need to know what is
needed to become a typesetter (seems obvious to me).
> Science, Nature, Journal of Biological Chemistry, Biochemistry,
> Journal of Virology, Virology, Journal of Molecular Biology, Genetics,
> Gene, Journal of Molecular Evolution, RNA...NONE of them accept latex
> (tex) format
> documents. They DO accept word and wordperfect. Some of them accept
> Wordstar.
You have told it: They *accept*. Do you *really* think Nature goes to
print rigth up from Word documents????? (and... when has Nature changed
its policy? they used to accept TeX documents)
> A few of them accept plain text, which latex _can_ handle in these
> circumstances.
>
> My colleagues are all scientists who publish in the above journals, and
> a few
> others. They all use Word. They do not have the need nor desire to
> take time
> away from doing X-ray crystallography, biochemistry, virology, or
> molecular
> biology research in order to learn something like latex when all they
> need
Geeeee. That's planly untrue. As soon as a mathematician needs to
include anything more complex than y=a*x+b, he is *desiring* to use
LaTeX instead of having to go to the printer a dozen of times just to
correct the preprint (as it was in the "old days").
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SALUD,
Jes�s
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: recovering data from tape
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:18:38 GMT
In article <8spoj3$726$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"mb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> After a lot of troubles i've got my tape backup drive
> (onstream DI30) fully working :-)
>
> I can write tar files to it without any trouble.
> with "tar tvbf 64 /dev/ht0" i can see what is on the tape and
> all looks very well.
As you know this means the data was written and can be read.
To experiment "cd /tmp" and try "tar xvbf 64 /dev/ht0 .".
This tell tar to eXtract files from the tape (rewinding) to
the current "." directory.
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From: Tim Hockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Increase RAM in RedHat Linux
Date: 20 Oct 2000 18:21:11 GMT
Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> append="mem=xxM" # where "xxM" is amount of memory.
: NOOOOO !
: set xx to be memory minus 2MB
: If you have 128Meg then set xx to be 126
WTF are you talking about? Please explain this ridiculous position...
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Tim Hockin
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Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:59:01 +0200
From: me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.questions,alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++,comp.os.linux.help,comp.lang.c
Subject: strange compilation error
hi
i'm trying to compile a very short, simple piece of code, and i get the
following error when i include the file <linux/cdrom.h>:
In file included from eject.c:2:
/usr/include/linux/cdrom.h:227: parse error before `caddr_t'
/usr/include/linux/cdrom.h:227: warning: no semicolon at end of struct
or union
/usr/include/linux/cdrom.h:229: parse error before `}'
the strange thing is, there doesnt seem to be anything wrong with
cdrom.h. All the structs etc declared there (up until line 350 or so)
are syntactically correct. Here's the code segment from cdrom.h lines
223-229
/* This struct is used by the CDROMREADMODE1, and CDROMREADMODE2 ioctls
*/
struct cdrom_read
{
int cdread_lba;
caddr_t cdread_bufaddr;
int cdread_buflen;
};
anyone know what the problem is??
thanks
ali
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Interoperability of SSH2s?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:36:02 GMT
Have 'openssh-clients-2.2.0p1-2' and 'openssh-server-2.2.0p1-2'
installed on one machine. The other has 'ssh-2.3.0' installed,
ssh and sshd.
I generated DSA keys on both machines; but their keys have
a radically different formats. The openssh's "id_dsa.pub"
has a one line format. While the ssh-2.3.0 machine's is
multi-lined.
Like this: (edited)
---- BEGIN SSH2 PUBLIC KEY ----
Subject: labash
Comment: "1024-bit dsa, labash@linux, Fri Oct 20 2000 16:00:09"
AAAAB3NzaC1kc3MAAACBAIsvv6qnX488t247eDDe9zuaOXL3teFdJ9QX8xFFBVN+NEFhf2
...
SBvsqjirMhqgCzbSRdLrtFisQLd3/hkP8TJjWHdcUZNABg+sOXb0EtL5zuSpjRHUaQOiaO
ayZoWh3z2/HDHAjtjQ==
---- END SSH2 PUBLIC KEY ----
How can one use these incompatable keys to setup the machine to do
password-less login?
Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Witkowski)
Subject: Problem with Software-Raid1
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:49:59 GMT
Hello,
I have two, free harddisks in my system. I can make an Software-Raid0
with "mdadd /dev/md0 /dev/hde1 /dev/hdf1" and "mdrun -p0 /dev/md0"
without any problem. Making a Software-Raid1 ( after deleting the old
one ) with "mdadd /dev/md0 /dev/hde1 /dev/hdf1" and "mdrun -p1
/dev/md0" I get the error-message:
"/dev/md0: invalid argument"
What I'm making wrong? Please help me!
Thanks
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 20 Oct 2000 18:41:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, NAVARRO LOPEZ,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Manuel writes:
|> Haoyu Meng wrote:
|> >
|> > U need to read a whole book to understand how to use Latex. I am in the business
|> > of writing books using computers. I don't want to have to learn programming to
|> > do that.
|> >
|>
|> OOOOAH, That's funny indeed!!!! So, your are "...in the business of
|> writing books using computers" but still, you're not expected to know
|> the tools to do so????
|>
|> Well, I'm in the bussiness of driving Formula1 race cars. I don't want
|> to have to learn the use of the manual changer for it.
|>
|> (Is it called "changer"? I mean the bar to change the engine
|> de-multiplication relationship, contrary most USA cars work with
|> authomatic changer)
Do you mean "transmission"?
What the heck is a "de-multiplication relationship"? Do you mean gears?
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Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the
glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big
as it needs to be.
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From: "Alvaro Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache and authenticated logins help please
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:55:15 GMT
Is there an easy way to have a page prompt for a usrname and password in
apache, without javascript? I cant find it in the man or the conf file.
Thanks
Alvaro
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From: Ian Danby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: help to delete file(hosts.allow,hosts.deny )
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:59:46 GMT
Why would you want to delete them? Modify entries in them maybe.
It worries me that the group of these files is ftp. My system has them
as adm. Could it be that these files were put there by a user root via
ftp? If so, then I'd start to worry and checking my system for trojans.
lckun wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have problem to delete files hosts.allow hosts.deny in /etc.
> I want to delete it, but always in vain, even though I am root.
> These files look as floows;
>
> hosts.allow root ftp 0 ...
> hosts.deny root ftp 0 ....
>
> I cannot chmod, chgrp, rm and so on.
> I think the problem is that the files belong ftp-group.
> Can anyone tell me how can i delete these files?
> I don't know why I can not do it???
>
> Regards
>
> Lee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
Subject: Re: Linux PDA
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:50:04 GMT
In article <8spmpa$cbk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"David W. Swager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Mick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8snb63$s10$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > New palm device using Linux Open Source!
> >
> > http://www.agendacomputing.com/
> >
> >
>
> Looks interesting. Very light, but limited to 8mb+8MB. Decent 66Mhz
> processor.
That 8 Mb more then my Visor has :) But I don't know the memory
usage of LinuxVR compares to PalmOS. I was *very* surprised at the
price.
> I know Compaq (I hate them!) have a linux build running on the Ipaq
3650
> (206 Mhz) in place of Pocket PC OS. Rumor is it is pretty sweet, but
there
> are interoperability problems with both Palm and Pocket PC.
That used to be on the top of my wish list. But... Compaq doesn't
install the Linux. The user does. And it totally wipes PPC, so if
the install fails, oyu have a $450 mock-up of an Ipaq :) They (I'm
not sure who) are working on a PPC recovery path for the install.
The Linux in in beta, something like ver. 0.83. And, this is the
clincher, you still pay Mr. Gates, since you have to buy the Ipaq
with PPC pre-installed.
With all that, plus others making Linux PDAs, like Agenda, I decided
to wait. In a year, this section of the landscape will look very
different.
Check out www.handhelds.org.
- Tere (terence DOT griffin AT nist DOT gov)
(Opinions expressed are mine alone, and do not represent
statements, policy or opinions of my employer.)
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From: NAVARRO LOPEZ, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Manuel
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:28:16 +0200
Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>
> Yes, it is possible to use Word the "right" way. Marking
> things by content and applying format with style sheets. But
> I've never seen anybody actually _do_ that. They always
> manually adjust the fonts/margins/whatever until they think it
> looks good. Trouble is, they're often wrong. But, I suppose,
> that is a matter of taste.
>
I think this is the heart of the bussiness. Human species seems to be
mainly visual. I for one do use Word content sheets when needed (coming
from "typesetting" HTML with Notepad) but you are rigth: almost nobody
does it, even when it is an obvious advantage (well, just think those
chapter titles fit better in brown red, and you will know the
difference... or try to automatically extract a TOC, for instance). But
look, even professionals had done just the same: HTML used to be a
Markup Language (where the Markups pointed to content, not visual
effects) but nowadays everybody seems to have forgotten this, since most
HTML pages (and I'm talking about the professional-made ones) are
rendered for the visual effects, instead for contents (with *very* ugly
collateral effects, like bad-rendering for blind people, for instance).
To loop the loop now they come "inventing" XML, wohoo, that language
that stands for content, not presentation (?????)
--
SALUD,
Jes�s
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 02:09:18 +0100
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Jan Schaumann wrote:
>"Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Jan Schaumann wrote:
>>>Garry Knight wrote:
>>
>>>>Most of the word processors I've come across can import and export RTF
>>>>pretty well.
>>>
>>>The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document FOrmat -
>>>D'uh). RTF is not half as portable.
>>
>> Great. Let's see you "port" a PDF document into Word 97.
>
>See <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> further below.
>
>Opening one document-type with an application that is not intended to
>handle that type can not produce the correct output.
>
>*You* try opening a word-document with xv.
I don't recall mentioning "opening" RTF documents. I seem to recall mentioning
the "import and export" of RTF documents, which the word processors I've used
in Linux can do quite well (i.e. Applix Words, StarOffice, AbiWord).
--
Garry Knight
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