Linux-Misc Digest #411, Volume #27 Wed, 21 Mar 01 12:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Repartitioning Linux Partitions (Rod Smith)
pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?) (Jan Schaumann)
Re: Newsreader in Linux ? (Tom)
anyone that wants to report this guy for spamming your groups...
Where can I find bdf spec.?
Re: Weird /proc/mtrr (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner)
Re: problems with netscape 4.75 and 4.76 (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner)
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Matt Haley)
Problems compiling LILO 21.7 ("Steve Vickers")
Re: GET RACIST SIPHER42 OUT OF THIS GROUP! (David Ryan)
Yahoo! Broadcast from Linux?? (Yoda McAwips)
Re: KDE-2.1.1 (Matt Haley)
kickstart / nfs problem ("Tobias")
Re: question about mailing an excel file from linux ... (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Yahoo! Broadcast from Linux?? (Michael Heiming)
Re: pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?) (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (AJL)
Re: question about mailing an excel file from linux ... (Michael Heiming)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Jean-David Beyer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Repartitioning Linux Partitions
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:00:09 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The reason why I want to do this is to install Minix on my computer.
> Minix requires a primary partition.
>
> Yes, you are right. Only 4 partitions are allowed. The only solution
> that I can think off is to move the 3rd partition, which is occupied now
> by the root(/) of Linux, into the extended partition. Then, I can use the
> 3rd partition by Minix. I don't know if that is possible though. I am
> not sure if Linux can boot from an extend partition or even move its root
> to an extended partition.
Yes, it's possible. You may need to change your boot loader
configuration, though. For instance, if LILO is currently installed in
the Linux boot partition and that partition is set as active, with no
other boot loader present, you'll need to move LILO to the MBR, because
the stock MBR won't direct the boot process to a logical partition. (I
think I've heard of people putting LILO in the EXTENDED partition, but
I'm not positive of that.) Alternatively, you could add a third-party
boot loader and leave LILO in the Linux partition's boot sector.
[Actually, you'd probably have to re-install it after converting the
partition.]
For converting the partition, you can either back up, repartition, and
restore, or you can use Partition Magic (http://www.powerquest.com).
IIRC, version 5 was the first to add the ability to convert a primary
partition to a logical partition or vice-versa. Version 6 is the latest.
However you do it, you'll also need to edit your /etc/fstab file so it
shows the correct device filenames. You should have some sort of
emergency floppy ready to do this. If you plan correctly, you can do it
just before shutting down prior to making the changes, so you won't need
to boot the emergency floppy -- but you'll still need some way to boot
first before restoring LILO (say, using your Linux kernel on a DOS
floppy with LOADLIN). It's also wise to have the emergency system in
case you made a mistake in editing /etc/fstab.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Subject: pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:07:12 GMT
* Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> Christian Garms wrote (in part):
> >
> > Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > I also have PINE set up....and the default mailer with RH 7.0....but
> > > they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
> >
> > Why do you need this stuff? Do you want to catch the latest trojans?
> >
> > Use PDF-Documents instead. ps2pdf is a very good tool for that.
>
> How do I get my correspondents to buy Adobe's Acrobat and use it when
> they are so used to running Microsoft Word or some HTML writer (such
> as Netscape or Microsoft Internet Explorer or Outlook Express)?
They don't need to buy anything. IIRC, almost all Windows machines have
Adboe's Acrobat /Reader/ installed - and if not, the *reader* can be
downloaded for free.
If they want to generate PDF's, surely they could use ghostscript
(which, IIRC, is available for Windows as well (I know it's available
for Mac, so I assume it's there for Win as well)) to convert a ps into a
pdf.
> They
> are so proud of having the latest Microsoft stuff that nothing can
> induce them to switch. When I send their stuff back, saying I cannot
> read it and to use something standard, they say I should get my
> machine fixed.
Well, it always depends on who's sending you the stuff: if it's anybody
who values your opinion, that person should be willing to make the stuff
available to you. Personally, I refuse to accept any *.doc *.xls or
whatnot. If the person sending the stuff can not be educated - well,
tough luck. In these rare cases I can read the stuff with some other
application, but anybody I'm in regular contact with knows not to send
me crap like that.
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
If you write something wrong enough, I'll be glad to make up a new
witticism just for you. -- Larry Wall
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom)
Subject: Re: Newsreader in Linux ?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:04:09 +0000 (UTC)
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:42:09 +0100, Alex Fitterling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>is there any, which can keep track of threads, especially then if one
>of my posting is included in those thread ? And - if -, can these
>threads be displayed separately ?
I also use slrn but if you are looking for a graphical reader, I
believe that pan dpes what you want.
http://pan.rebelbase.com/
Tom
--
Quote of the day for March 21st, 2001
A good cook is like a sorceress who dispenses happiness.
- Elsa Schiapirelli
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.food.wine,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.movies,rec.collecting.coins,alt.autos.porsche,alt.tv.sopranos
Subject: anyone that wants to report this guy for spamming your groups...
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:08:57 GMT
use [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Brian L. McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> in article RVdt6.122817$[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
19/3/01
> 12:12:
>
> > You are a complete moron if you think I made those statements. What is
more
> > likely some guy randomly searches deja news to dig up dirt on random
people
> > or he simply fakes the posts?
>
> It has already been PROVEN that the racist posts you make AREN'T FORGED..
.
> . One look at the headers proves that to a "T". That's why Road Runner
> disconnected you for ten days. That's why you're HOTMAIL address is dead.
.
> .
>
> That's why you're real address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], the site for
> losers and lamers you host on Road Runner. Because in addition to being
> RACIST, you're also a SEXIST. Probably repressed homosexual. When are
you
> coming out?
>
>
> You're a racist sexist loser.
>
>
>
> Path:
>
newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlin
>
k.net!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news.stealth.net
>
!24.30.200.2.MISMATCH!news-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone.southeast.rr.com!
> typhoon.southeast.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: alt.fuck.niggers
> Subject: Something to piss you off
> Lines: 5
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
> Message-ID: <NpLh6.66799$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:30:05 GMT
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.26.242.93
> X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Trace: typhoon.southeast.rr.com 981959405 66.26.242.93 (Mon, 12 Feb 2001
> 01:30:05 EST)
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:30:05 EST
> Organization: Road Runner - NC
> Xref: newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net alt.fuck.niggers:30623
>
> Here's something to piss you off. My stupid asshole school
> www.wake.tec.nc.us gives off for martin luther king day and NOT PRESIDENTS
> DAY!
>
>
> Path:
>
newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlin
>
k.net!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news.stealth.net
>
!24.30.200.2.MISMATCH!news-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone.southeast.rr.com!
> typhoon.southeast.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: alt.fuck.niggers
> Subject: What naacp really stands for
> Lines: 4
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
> Message-ID: <mxLh6.66836$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:38:10 GMT
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.26.242.93
> X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Trace: typhoon.southeast.rr.com 981959890 66.26.242.93 (Mon, 12 Feb 2001
> 01:38:10 EST)
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:38:10 EST
> Organization: Road Runner - NC
> Xref: newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net alt.fuck.niggers:30624
>
> Niggers Are actually colored polacks
> hehhe
>
>
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where can I find bdf spec.?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:30:06 -0000
Hi! There,
I converted .ttf to bdf to pcf to .pcf.gz.
Install OK.
When I use that font under kedit, the visible cursor is off 2 positions to
the right from the invisible real cursor.
If I insert a character or delete a character it will mess around with 2
characters to the left of the visible cursor.
Works great with other fonts. Can any one help me on that?
Where will I find the the meaning of the header portion of .bdf.
Something to do with the header portion?
FONT -FreeType-Bamar6-Medium-R-Normal--17-120-100-100-P-81-Symbol-0
SIZE 12 100 100
FONTBOUNDINGBOX 35 22 -17 -8
STARTPROPERTIES 20
FOUNDRY "FreeType"
FAMILY_NAME "Bamar"
WEIGHT_NAME "Medium"
SLANT "R"
SETWIDTH_NAME "Normal"
ADD_STYLE_NAME ""
PIXEL_SIZE 17
POINT_SIZE 120
RESOLUTION_X 100
RESOLUTION_Y 100
SPACING "P" <---------- what does it mean?
AVERAGE_WIDTH 81
CHARSET_REGISTRY "Symbol"
CHARSET_ENCODING "0"
FONT_ASCENT 9
FONT_DESCENT 3
COPYRIGHT "Typeface ? The Monotype Corporation plc. Data ? The Monotype
Corporation plc/Type Solutions Inc. 1990-1994. All Rights Reserved"
_TTF_FONTFILE "BAMAR.TTF"
_TTF_PSNAME "Proportional BaMarExt"
Thanks,
Myint
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Weird /proc/mtrr
Date: 21 Mar 2001 15:37:30 GMT
PoD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The mtrr entry in /proc looks odd to me
> [root@localhost /root]# ls -l /proc/mtrr
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 66 Mar 21 21:04 /proc/mtrr
Well, it's the same on my system.
> every other entry (except kcore) has a size of 0
> Is it possible to create a normal file in /proc ?
What does the output of "mount" say? If you see "none" mounted on
/proc, then it can't be a regular file. But it almost certainly isn't one
anyway, so don't worry about it.
JDW
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From: Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: problems with netscape 4.75 and 4.76
Date: 21 Mar 2001 15:53:38 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Hans Christianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had a similar problem and just figured out how to fix it. Assuming you
> have root access, log in as root and use "userdel -r <user>" to delete
> youself. Then use "useradd -d <dir> -m <user>" and "passwd <user>" to add
> yourself again. The next time you log in and try netscape, you'll have a
> fresh copy waiting for you. Worked when I screwed something up and every
> time I opened the address book netscape crashed.
Jesus Christ, man, this isn't Windows. Deleting yourself as a user
just to fix an application problem is a bit harsh. Trust me, it is _not_
normal to need to reinstall things - programs, users, OSes - to fix them.
That's brain damage perpetrated on you by Gates and his cronies.
If deleting your home directory and recreating it fixed problems with
Netscape, then try deleting your ~/.netscape directory, hopefully backing up
your bookmarks.htm and address book (pab.na2? I forget.) first.
JDW
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Haley)
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:00:26 -0000
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:47:05 +0000,
[Bad-Knees] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Withers wrote:
>
> Mozilla 0.8 is nice and fast.....
Just from the improvments that I've noticed between the most recent releases,
from <0.7 -> 0.7 -> 0.8, I have a feeling that when it finally reaches 1.0 it
will be one sweet piece of software.
--
-+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+-
-+=-=-=-= Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -=-=-=+-
-+=-= Debian 2.2 -+- Windows ME -+- RedHat 6.1 -=+-
-+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+-
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From: "Steve Vickers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems compiling LILO 21.7
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:16:40 +0000
I'm running Caldera eDesktop 2.4 and I'm trying to install LILO 21.7 to
get over the 1024 cylinder limit. However when I run "make" I get the
following:
[root@sv-lnx lilo-21.7]# make
cc -E check-config.cpp `( if [ -r $ROOT/etc/lilo.defines ]; then cat
$ROOT/etc/lilo.defines; else echo -DM386 -DIGNORECASE -DVARSETUP -DREWRITE_TABLE
-DONE_SHOT -DVERSION -DREISERFS; fi ) | sed 's/-D/-DLCF_/g'` `[ -r
/usr/include/asm/boot.h ] && echo -DHAS_BOOT_H` >/dev/null
as86 -0 -a -w -l temp2.lis -o temp2.o temp2.s
00836 031F 74 00> toNull: je near null !
cursor control*****
^junk after operands
01525 07D1 72 00> jb near doload
***** ^junk after
operands
00836 031F 74 00 toNull: je near null !
cursor control***** ^unbound
label
***** ^junk after
operands
01525 07D1 72 00 jb near doload
***** ^junk after
operands
***** ^unbound label
00004 errors
00000 warnings
make: *** [temp2.o] Error 1
rm temp2.o
[root@sv-lnx lilo-21.7]# find / -name as86
/usr/bin/as86
/usr/i386-linux/bin/as86
find: /proc/62/fd: Permission denied
find: /proc/63/fd: Permission denied
[root@sv-lnx lilo-21.7]#
In another posting I saw to this group, someone suggested updating as86
to bin86 or dev86. So Installed bin86-0.4-1.i386.rpm, but nothing
changed.
Any ideas anyone ??
Thanks in advance,
Steve
ps. if possible please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:04:13 -0500
From: David Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.food.wine,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.movies,alt.autos.porsche,alt.tv.sopranos
Subject: Re: GET RACIST SIPHER42 OUT OF THIS GROUP!
Which group?
news:alt.food.wine - WHITE wine only
news:rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang - Henry Ford, noted racist and anti-semite
news:alt.movies - "Birth of a Nation" or "Triumph of the Will" (Triumph Des Willens)
news:alt.autos.porche - definitely european
news:comp.os.linux.misc - nerdy white os
alt.tv.sopranos - wops & dagoes
WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO SAY TO THAT ALL YOU RACIST PIGS???!!!!
______________________________________________________________________
Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Still Only $9.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com
With Six Servers In California And Texas - The Worlds Uncensored News Source
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From: Yoda McAwips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Yahoo! Broadcast from Linux??
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:12:30 +0000
Does anyone know how to circumvent the "Media Helper" applet that Yahoo!
Broadcast uses to select your player and connection speed? I have Netscape
4.76 and RealPlayer 8 installed on my RH machine, but the stupid "Media
Helper" grays out all of the choices except Windows Media Player and 28.8k
bps. I know that Netscape is configured properly for RP, because I have
used RP at other sites.
I have attempted to communicate this problem to the people at Yahoo!, but I
said something besides Microsoft, so they did nothing.
--
Matt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Haley)
Subject: Re: KDE-2.1.1
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:28:02 -0000
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:10:55 GMT,
Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have downloaded a set of KDE sources and would like to compile them but
> don't know which one to start first. Can anyone please advice me the order
> of packages to compile the KDE-2.1.1? Is the order important?
http://www.kde.org has the instructions for building from source.
--
-+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+-
-+=-=-=-= Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -=-=-=+-
-+=-= Debian 2.2 -+- Windows ME -+- RedHat 6.1 -=+-
-+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+-
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From: "Tobias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kickstart / nfs problem
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:32:43 +0100
Hello
I try to build a kickstart installation for our company. I put the ks.cfg
(see below) on the boot floppy, which I created from the boot.img image from
the RedHat 6.2 CDROM. Booting works and kickstart seems to find the
configuration file. In the log file on the nfs server I see that the client
can access the exported directory, which contains all the Red Hat source
files.
But then the kickstart displays the following:
"install exited abnormally -- received signal 9"
My configuration file looks as follows:
lang en_us
network --bootproto static --ip 192.168.1.136 --netmask
255.255.255.0 --gatway192.168.1.1 --nameserver 192.168.1.11
nfs --server neptune.mydomain.com --dir /tmp/rh62
keyboard us
device ethernet smc-ultra --opts "io=0x240, irg=5"
zerombr yes
clearpart --all
part /boot --size 16
part swap --size 128
part / --size 400
mouse none
timezone --utc Europe/Zurich
rootpw apassword
auth --enablemd5
lilo --location mbr
reboot
packages
.......
Has anyone an idea what the problem could be?
Thank you.
Tobias
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question about mailing an excel file from linux ...
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:32:50 -0500
Davide Bianchi wrote:
>
> "Yasuki Izaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:999fsr$fn2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm currently mailing a text file from linux (RH6.1) to aol users.
> > This is done automatically by cron to execute mail command.
> > Now, my receipients wants the data in MS/Execel format.
> > Does anybody know how can it be done? Please e-mail me your responses.
>
> Create a simple comma-delimited file with the data separated by
> commas and new-line. Excel will be able to read the file and put
> the data into cells.
> He will have no fancy fonts and so on, but the file will be understood
> by everybody.
>
OK as far as it goes, but many Excel files I get or send have commas
in the cells, so a .csv file is no good. Making a tab-separated-values
file (.tsv) is usually a lot better.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 11:30am up 18 days, 18:34, 3 users, load average: 3.77, 3.62,
3.37
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:38:19 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yahoo! Broadcast from Linux??
Yoda McAwips wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to circumvent the "Media Helper" applet that Yahoo!
> Broadcast uses to select your player and connection speed? I have Netscape
> 4.76 and RealPlayer 8 installed on my RH machine, but the stupid "Media
> Helper" grays out all of the choices except Windows Media Player and 28.8k
> bps. I know that Netscape is configured properly for RP, because I have
> used RP at other sites.
I don't know about yahoo, never visited the side, but could it be that they
only provide streaming video for M$ Media Player?
That's what I assume from your post.
Michael Heiming
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:39:18 -0500
Jan Schaumann wrote:
>
> * Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> > Christian Garms wrote (in part):
> > >
> > > Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > I also have PINE set up....and the default mailer with RH 7.0....but
> > > > they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
> > >
> > > Why do you need this stuff? Do you want to catch the latest trojans?
> > >
> > > Use PDF-Documents instead. ps2pdf is a very good tool for that.
> >
> > How do I get my correspondents to buy Adobe's Acrobat and use it when
> > they are so used to running Microsoft Word or some HTML writer (such
> > as Netscape or Microsoft Internet Explorer or Outlook Express)?
>
> They don't need to buy anything. IIRC, almost all Windows machines have
> Adboe's Acrobat /Reader/ installed - and if not, the *reader* can be
> downloaded for free.
>
> If they want to generate PDF's, surely they could use ghostscript
> (which, IIRC, is available for Windows as well (I know it's available
> for Mac, so I assume it's there for Win as well)) to convert a ps into a
> pdf.
Perhaps they could get ghostscript, but they have stuff in Microsoft
Word, not .ps, so how do they convert Word .doc files to .ps files so
they can use ghostscript to convert that to .pdf? If they could create
.ps files, they could send them to me like that. But they are
unwilling and mostly unable to convert anything. They assume that
EVERYONE uses WORD and telling them this is not so does not convince
them. They insist my computer is broken.
>
> > They
> > are so proud of having the latest Microsoft stuff that nothing can
> > induce them to switch. When I send their stuff back, saying I cannot
> > read it and to use something standard, they say I should get my
> > machine fixed.
>
> Well, it always depends on who's sending you the stuff: if it's anybody
> who values your opinion, that person should be willing to make the stuff
> available to you. Personally, I refuse to accept any *.doc *.xls or
> whatnot. If the person sending the stuff can not be educated - well,
> tough luck. In these rare cases I can read the stuff with some other
> application, but anybody I'm in regular contact with knows not to send
> me crap like that.
>
You are lucky. I have gotten them to tolerate e-mail not in HTML
format, but they wonder why my replies do not have all the fancy
fonts, sizes, and colors that they included originally. If they
included images, they just get something like:
[image]
(or something like that) instead of the image we are trying to
discuss. I know I could make this Netscape use HTML just for them, but
it is too much bother.
But some outfits will send data only in .xls format and if I do not
like it, I cannot get it. Luckily, I can usually import it into
Applixware, but not if there is Visual Basic in it.
And some send data only in .doc format. The trouble with those is that
you never know what version it is, and if it was done with the default
"fast save" mode, I cannot import it into Applixware. Of course, some
Microsoft Word versions will not read that crap either. Serves them
right.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 11:30am up 18 days, 18:34, 3 users, load average: 3.77, 3.62,
3.37
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From: AJL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:40:12 GMT
> > I have been using Netscape for mail on Linux for a long time because it
> > supports HTML and Javascript and graphics.
> >
>
> I've been using Netscape too, but every new release seemed to get buggier and
> more bloated (e.g. takes ages to start up) so now I had enough...
No kidding, Netscape 6 is hardly worth installing because it takes
longer to start up than any application that I have ever used on
any platform. Sure it can read HTML and Java, but do i really need the
latest, most advanced Java machine running that starts _16_ java_vm
processes in addition to the 5 processes for Netscape alone?? I don't
remember Netscape Communicator 4.7x being that bad.
> Since I'm using KDE, I tried KMail for email and KNode for newsgroups.
> So, far I'm satisfied with the switch. KMail does support html & java, but
> it is turned off by default, you have to change it in the Settings menu if you
> need that stuff (although I aggree with others, that email should stay ASCII).
KDE is very nice, and when I ran it I hardly ever used Netscape. Kind
of like M$ where it only makes sence to use IE/outlook express and
just apply the security patches every week. For now I use Pine for news
and email, and Netscape for web documents since I like Enlightenment
(can't wait for E17 =)
Andy
I thought pico was the default UNIX editor!?
root at yggdrasil.27south.com
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:45:08 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question about mailing an excel file from linux ...
Yasuki Izaki wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm currently mailing a text file from linux (RH6.1) to aol users.
> This is done automatically by cron to execute mail command.
> Now, my receipients wants the data in MS/Execel format.
> Does anybody know how can it be done? Please e-mail me your responses.
> Thank you in advance!
You could try to adopt the following bash script, it's made for sending files
as attachment, you may look at an email (ALL Headers shown) with an excel
sheet attachet and adjust the script, case it's not working out of the box
for you...
Good luck
Michael Heiming
#!/bin/bash
#
# Script: sendfile
#
# Purpose: Send the specified file via email as a MIME
# attachment to the specified address.
#
# Author: Anthony E. Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# License: GPL <http://www.gnu.org/>
#
# Note: This script does not include any error checking, so
# it should only be called from within other scripts.
# The correct syntax for using this script is:
#
# sendfile filename user@domain | /path/to/sendmail -t
#
# First we set up some global variables.
# Some code should be added to verify the commandline arguments.
sender=root@localhost
filename=$1
basefile=`/bin/basename $filename`
recipient=$2
DATE=`date -I`
echo From: $sender
echo To: $recipient
echo Subject: File $basefile from $DATE
echo MIME-Version: 1.0
echo "Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
Boundary=\"sendfile-attachment-boundary\""
echo
echo --sendfile-attachment-boundary
echo 'Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii'
echo
echo This is a MIME encoded message. If your mail software
echo cannot properly handle the attached file, you may need
echo to get a MIME-aware mailer.
echo
echo --sendfile-attachment-boundary
echo "Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=\"$basefile\""
echo Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
echo "Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=\"$basefile\""
echo
/usr/bin/mimencode $filename
echo --sendfile-attachment-boundary--
#end of script
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:46:03 -0500
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Manfred Bartz wrote:
> >>
> >> Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > I have been using Netscape for mail on Linux for a long time because it
> >> > supports HTML and Javascript and graphics.
> >>
> >> > they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
> >>
> >> Well, do you need all that stuff? For email???
>
> > Yes. I receive several e-mails that have the best and richest content
> > when I can display HTML. Otherwide they are almost unreadable.
>
> So tell them not to send you it. After all, I don't write to you in
> swahili, unless I know that you understand swahili. If you insist
> on encouraging swahili documents, then send them for translation when
> you get them.
>
Did you ever try to tell the U.S.Government or a local government not
to send it to you? And if you got them to not send it to you, have you
any idea of the consequences of not responding to something they sent?
They have many useful applications that run only on Windows.
Fortunately, most of their stuff is in .pdf, so they are not too much
of a problem.
Where the problems are especially severe is local governments, where
someone took a 6-week long night school class and are now Microsoft
Office experts, so they have their official stuff come out as
Microsoft Word or Microsoft PowerPoint documents and you are supposed
to read it. If you do not, you are s.o.l.
--
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