Linux-Misc Digest #820, Volume #18 Sat, 30 Jan 99 04:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (C Sanjayan
Rosenmund)
Re: Success at Booting Linux from ATAPI ZIPDRIVE??? (Frank Carney)
Re: cannot open root device 08:07 (Rene Uittenbogaard)
Re: LiNUX box as transparent email "router"? ("Richard Payne")
Re: HardWare Advice Much Appreciated (James)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Michael Powe)
Re: (Symbolic) Links Again (Alexander Viro)
Re: Bug or feature? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Netscape and RPM ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry? (Robert Heller)
Re: Fonts, can hardly read anything (Gary Momarison)
Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry? (Alexander Viro)
Re: Got Hack ! (Seth Van Oort)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Michael Powe)
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From: C Sanjayan Rosenmund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 07:36:56 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Ken Witherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : system (no need to do the tiny fine-tuning that only a "power-user"
> : would need) and a basic manual describing beginner commands (things like
> : ls, mount, cd, etc) most people would be able to get by as well as they
> : do in windoze.
>
> Why hold them to a different standard? With autofs you can easily
> setup a Linux box to emulate a Windows one.. change into the directory and
> it'll mount the CD automatically, leave it and after a timeout (5 seconds?)
> it'll auto unmount it and you can eject it without ever knowing the details
> of how it works. With KDE you could set it up so that you could click on
> a Netscape icon, it'll launch some custom app that configures your dialup
> networking for you, and then launches Netscape and then removes the part
> of the script that launches the configuration so the next time clicking on
> netscape will just launch netscape (ala "The Internet" in Win95). Have
> it come with Applixware or Staroffice installed, etc. I personally hate
> KDE but it's excellent for newbies. They never need even know the command
> line exists!
I aggree that if you package Linux for the "average user" the gui
should be
/easy/ to use and also the default interface. If they want CLI, they
can
open a terminal window. At least the system will not be crashing on a
daily
or weekly basis!
--
Sanjay
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Windows has detected that a gnat has farted near your computer.
Press any key to reboot.
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From: Frank Carney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Success at Booting Linux from ATAPI ZIPDRIVE???
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:21:10 -0700
In order to do this the motherboard bios must support it. If it does
not then it will not happen. Many MBs do support both the IDE Zip IDE
LS120. Good Luck
--
To e-mail me please remove "NOSPAM" from the reply-to address.
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From: Rene Uittenbogaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cannot open root device 08:07
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:54:56 +0100
"Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" wrote:
> G'day...
>
> > Need help getting a scsi kernel to build.
> > Built a kernel for scsi on Caldera 1.3
> > boot partition is /dev/sda7
> > When machine comes up I get message:
> > VFS: Cannot opne root device 08:07
> > kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:07
> > Default kernel works.
>
> This is because the kernel is trying to load the root filesystem from
> the wrong partition. If you are using LILO you should be able to fix
> this. There is also a command that you can perform on the image that
> will set the root filesystem.
>
> However, the simplest solution is use lilo to pass a parameter to the
> kernel.
I tried it once, but this was not enough. I had to tell the kernel where
the root filesystem was. Use the "rdev" command. I don't know the
details by heart; see "man rdev"
Success
Rene
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From: "Richard Payne" <payner at timken dot com>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: LiNUX box as transparent email "router"?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:57:30 -0500
Look for fetchmail. You could set this up in a cron job to go and
get your mail from the multiple POP3 servers, dump it into your
mail spool file on the Linux box, run procmail on that and then
use Eudora to grab it. How's that?
--
Rich Payne
(Speaking for myself, not my employer)
payner at timken dot com
Looking for Alpha-Linux info?
http://www.alphalinux.org
David Kaczynski wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello:
>
>I want to do the following and was wondering how feasible this is.
>
>I have a LiNUX box connected to the Internet and it's IP
>masquerading/firewalling my NT box. I wish the LiNUX box to grab my
>email periodically from the various ISP/places I get email from (a few
>POP3/IMAP servers). I then wish to have Procmail filter these emails
>which is currently being done via a shell account elsewhere. I then
>wish to "download" these now Procmail-filtered emails (which are now
>stored on my LiNUX box) using Eudora (via POP3/IMAP).
>
>When I grab these emails, I need them to appear to my Windows-based
>email program so they are "from" who sent them to me and not "from" my
>LiNUX box. Basically, I want them appear to be identical to what I'd
>see if I grabbed them from the original POP3 servers. When I mean,
>identical, of course the two would have different "Received:" headers,
>but they both should appear to be the email client to be "To:" and
>"From:" as they are on the POP3 servers.
>
>It would be nice if I could use the LiNUX box as a SMTP server also to
>send the outgoing emails, but this isn't critical.
>
>Basically, I want to be able to dump the shell account, and do the
>filtering locally on the LiNUX box. Eudora's filtering is pitiful
>compared to Procmail, but nonetheless, I want the filtering done for
>me on the LiNUX box so all Eudora has to do is just grab 'em.
>
>So:
>
>1. I need Procmail to filter my emails, and
>2. I need to use the Windows-based email program.
>3. I need this to be "transparent" as possible.
>
>Can this be easily done? If so, I'm all for pointers, an explanation
>or URL.
>
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From: James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: HardWare Advice Much Appreciated
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 01:16:29 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any SoundBlaster card (or compatible) would be my first suggestion.
I still use a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 card on me second Linux box, good sound
and never had a driver problem with it. I might suggest getting a disk larger
than
2 meg id you plan to load Linux and a few of the development apps such as
java swingset, database tools from Oracle, Informix, IBM DB2 or Sybase.
(and there are SO many more to choose from !)
A Nourai wrote:
> i'd like to build a system for linux from scratch.
>
> I was wondering what sound cardS would give me the least problem.
> I dont need anything fancy, anythig that will allow me to listen to mp3's
> with reasonable quality will suffice.
>
> also, under what conditions will I ever need more than 2 gig to run linux?
>
> thanks
>
> pls reply to me via email disregarding the XXX in my address, or post to
> this group.
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 29 Jan 1999 23:52:04 -0800
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>>>>> "Matthias" == Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Matthias> Pseudo-religious Linuxism, as stupid as it may be, and
Matthias> atheism, as immature as it often is[*], are IMHO still
Matthias> better than the US kind of patriotism, i.e. patriotism
Matthias> that is attached to totems like flags or to juvenile
Matthias> power fantasies ("We can kick everyone's ass if we want
Matthias> to!").
"Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels." -- Samuel Johnson
Okay, so Johnson was an Englishmen. He was generally right, though.
;-)
mp
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Subject: Re: (Symbolic) Links Again
Date: 29 Jan 1999 09:03:59 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>3. Colour, Colour, Colour ... I like the idea of a file having only one
>location in the file system, and then the link reference the file. Thus,
>I like to see the referencing (symlinks) in a different colour when I do
>an ls. Hard links would have all the files in the same colour. This
>makes it easier to control and understand where a file logically
>belongs. (basic, isn't it ;-)
File *DOESN'T* have a location. Period. Files in UNIX are nameless.
Directories are just special files containing pairs (name,reference to file).
Each of those references counts as hardlink. *Including* the case when there
is only one such reference. Symlink is not a reference to the file - it's
a *different* file containing a string. When you are trying to open it/
lookup through it kernel tries to interpret said string as path to another
file.
Example: you have
#2: <directory>, contains (".",2) ("..",2) ("foo",5") ("dev",4)
#4: <directory>, contains (".",4) ("..",4) ("hda",12")
#5: <directory>, contains ("bar",80) ("baz",90) ("quux",154)
#12: <block device>, device number 3:0
#80: <symlink>, contains "/dev/hda"
#90: <symlink>, contains "quux/fred"
#154: <directory>, contains (".",154) ("..",154) ("fred",177) ("jives",12)
#177: <directory>, contains (".",177) ("..",177) (barf",190)
#190: <regular>, contains 14M of net.news (i.e. 14Mb of flames and BS).
Suppose the root is #2. Then "/" is #2, "/dev" is #4, "/dev/.." is #2 again,
"/dev/hda" is #12, "/foo/quux" is #154, "/foo/quux/jives" is #12. "Is" here
means "will lead you to". Now, what about "/foo/bar"? If you are doing
something like stat(), etc. (almost anything except open()) it is #80.
Suppose you are trying to open "/foo/bar". What will happen?
1). We start at the root (#2) and have to lookup "foo". It's #5�
2) We are at #5 and have to lookup "bar". It's #80.
3) We have no more name components, but we are trying to open the file, so
let's check if #80 is symlink.
4) Yup, it is. We have to start at root and look for "dev" and then "hda".
... it will get us to #12.
Another example: we are trying to do anything with "/foo/baz/barf".
1) Start at root (#2), lookup "foo". It's #5.
2) We are at #5, lookup "baz". It's #90.
3) We have something else to lookup ("barf") so should check if #90 is
a directory. Nope. OK, is it symlink? Yes. So we'll have to go for
"quux/fred/barf". From the place where we've seen "baz". I.e. from #5.
No further complications, will get us to #190.
That's how it works. Files are NAMELESS. Their properties (owner,
type, permission, contents, timestamps) belong to *file*, not the directory
entry (record in another file). Symlinks are special files with, erm,
lookup macros (see examples above). BTW, you may open the file and delete
all references to it. It will stay alive until you'll close it. It will be
unreachable from namespace, so what? Removing files is a form of garbage
collection - when nobody uses file and there is no way to get new users
kernel may destroy the file as unneeded. That's it. rm (or unlink) only
deletes the reference.
>5. I am unsure of how things like the /dev "files" work, but it is
>really useful to throw symlinks around in there. I have /dev/modem,
Would work with hardlinks too. Files in /dev (files of type
block/character device, actually. There is nothing magical about /dev)
belong to yet another type (beyond regular files, directories and symlinks).
read/write/lseek/etc. on them is interpreted in a special way - kernel
passes the request to device driver instead of generic filesystem code.
>easier to deal with. BTW, can you hard link /dev/<device>?
Sure you can.
>6. Directories ... you can't/shouldn't hardlink directories.
Can't and shouldn't. All needed links here are created by mkdir().
rmdir() removes them and rename() changes. That's it. There are waaay too
many race conditions if you allow explicit links on those beasts.
>7. You can make certain applications behave differently depending on
>symlinks. apache, tar, cp, etc., and some applications follow sym links,
>others don't, and each has particular relevance. Having symlinks gives
>more opportunity for control than just hard links.
Yes, because they are *different* things.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bug or feature?
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:34:59 +0100
"Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > If I load the module ppa.o, the zip drive works, but, even with the zip
> > drive powered off, the printer doesn't. If I unload ppa.o, even with the
> > zip drive powered on, the printer works.
> This is correct behaviour. The drivers take control of the port and the
> appropriate drivers must be switched between.
> All the best...
hi,
this is a limitation of the 2.x kernel, 2.2.x kernels will allow you
to use both. (that's what they said somewhere).
cumarc
> Michael.
>
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Linux Documentation Project
---http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape and RPM
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:27:32 +0100
Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I've just tried to download an RPM file which I need from www.suse.com
> for Linux. Problem is that Netscape thinks it's a RealPlayer file and
> insists on opening Realplayer every time. I just want to save the file
> to disk but how ??
> Cheers,
> Len
hi,
right mouse click on the link,
save file as .......
cumarc
--
Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils.
-- General George Stark.
-- http://www.perreira.lu
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Subject: Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Heller)
Date: 29 Jan 1999 23:03:57 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:18:40 GMT, wrote :
o> I've been mucking around in the Win98 registry lately, and I wondered what is
o> the Linux equivilant of the registry (or if there even is one)?
The 'WinXX registry' is unique to MS-Windows.
AFAIK, it serves two *main* functions. The first one 'emulates' some of
the functionality that MacOS gains from the HFS file system (MacOS's
native file system, which implements things like resource forks (not in
MS-Windows at all) and 'finder info' (faked by file extension in the
registry). The second functionality is much like the X11 option
database. (Yes, there is other odds and ends stashed in the registry,
like the kind of stuff Linux handles with ldconfig and kerneld and
inittab and other random system run-time data and system config
information.)
No other O/S does this. MacOS has a proper file-system *designed* for a
point-and-click icon O/S. UNIX and Linux does not do this, so does not
need it (many UNIX systems use the 'file' program to figure out what
kind of data lives in a given file or else trusts the user to not lie
about the data being passed or do a direct signature check on a case by
case basis). X11 has its own *transient* database for graphics related
parameterization (fonts, colors, windows sizes & placement, etc.),
loaded from some text file (eg ~/.Xdefaults). And uses various boot
time and run time configuration files for other parameterization
(generally living in or under /etc or /var).
Putting all kinds of random information in a single database file is a
disaster asking to happen. MacOS scatters 'finder info' in special tiny
files on a file-by-file basis on the file system itself. Preferences
are in preferences files and the same for system parameters (control
panels). This limits problems to specific sub-systems -- if one control
panel gets trashed, only that sub-system is messed up, which generally
won't prevent the system booting (without extensions is necessary). A
trashed registry could conceivably prevent MS-Windows from booting
properly or might cause MS-Windows to be confused in odd ways.
Generally it is hard (sometimes impossible) to fix the registry, except
by the 'brute force' method: format C: followed by a clean re-install of
MS-Windows. Short of a total disk failure, neither UNIX (including
Linux) nor MacOS would require this extreme repair method (yes, if you
need to re-partition the drive to re-arrange partition sizes or
something, you'll have to re-install, but this is not the same thing --
usually this is a planned activity and a proper backup can be
performed).
The MS-Windows 'registry' hack is a clear case of 'putting all your eggs
in one basket' -- dropping the basket trashes your entire egg supply.
o>
o> I'm pre-newbie as I don't have a machine yet that I can install Linux on...
o>
o> Curious,
o>
o> Mark
o>
o> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
o> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
o>
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fonts, can hardly read anything
Date: 29 Jan 1999 23:57:52 -0800
Kaustav Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Since I installed RH5.2, I have not changed anything much. I find the
> fonts really badly unreadable. e.g. in Netscape the KDE site or the Red
> Hat site is practically unreadable. I though the Mac had bad fonts but
> this makes the Mac look godly! what's going on? Does RH5.2 come with a
> buncha arse-shite fonts and if so, where can I download some decent,
> free, fonts which look half decent? The problem is the fonts are so
> jaggy that at font size 2 everything is a big blob! It this Type One
> font crappery and do I need to install TT fonts instead? Help, I'm
> going font crazy! When are we getting a nice anti-aliased outline font
> manager!?!?!? *sobs*
Have you played with the Nescape Preferences/Appearance/Fonts form?
I run 1156x864 on a 15" screen and standard fonts look OK to me.
But if you're font crazy, you can find lots of stuff to read about
configuring them here: http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/fonts.html
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Subject: Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry?
Date: 29 Jan 1999 09:07:55 -0500
In article <oc8s2.670$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Windows >= 95 takes the "Soviet/Fascist Central Planning" approach where
Godwin Law.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Got Hack !
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:19:33 +0000
go into inetd.conf and look at all the entries. If you find yourself
asking "Hmm... I wonder what this is?", then comment it out! You can
always uncomment later. Do the same thing in /etc/rc.d/[runlevel]. If
you have the runlevel editor in the control panel, then look at those
services. You shouldn't just turn all this stuff off though cause you
might actually need it. Find the man pages for them. Goto
http://www.deter.com/unix/papers/unix_security_checklist.txt
And one thing about redhat, is that I think they allow anonymous ftp
access by default.
Steeve wrote:
>
> Louis Alexendra ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > My Redhat Linux Box get hacked few days ago. Now I am installing again
> > the clean system and I don't wish to get hacked again. Could anyone out
> > there teach me how to avoid get hacked? Any tools to use? Thanks very
> > much.
>
> Go to the redhat site and check the errata, most notably NFS.
>
> --
> steeve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
> I WISH I would have a real tragic love affair and get so bummed out that
> I'd just quit my job and become a bum for a few years, because I was
> thinking about doing that anyway. -- Jack Handey
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 29 Jan 1999 23:42:08 -0800
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>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Paul> Michael Powe wrote:
>> Your "statement" fell over sideways. Your original claim was
>> that computers were invented in the United States. Since that
>> was demonstrably false, you've now changed your argument to be
>> that the tools that enabled computers to be built were invented
>> in the United States.
Paul> I quote from my own post where I entered this argument to
Paul> demonstrate that you are full of it...
Paul> Where does these attempts to beat up on the "average"
Paul> American come from? We're the number one miltary and
Paul> economic superpower on the planet. Most of the technical
Paul> innovations in computing *came* from the USA (transistor,
Paul> IC, microprocessor, etc). If we're all so damn stupid then
Paul> why are we beating all of *you*? Sounds like simple sour
Paul> grapes to me... change your first name to "Harrison" and
Paul> then you can put some ear-splitting random interval sounds
Paul> into my earpiece to bring me down to your level... :-)
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From: pdohert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Newsgroups: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:09:48 -0600
Organization: DFW Internet Services, Inc.
Michael Powe wrote:
> Hard to see where you got the idea that "the US has pretty much
> initiated the whole thing." The modern "computer revolution" started
> in Britain. Americans are too self-congratulatory for my taste. They
> seem to forget a few major technological facts, like they got hosed in
> automotive technology and manufacturing technologies and had to play
> catchup in electronic technologies. Isn't anybody here old enough to
> remember that American businessmen thought transistors would be of no
> serious commercial value? American businessmen are noted around the
> world for their inability to see beyond next quarter's earnings
> chart.
What does the vision (or lack thereof) of businessmen in forecasting the
usefulness or competetive edge of new technology have to do with the
point that the technology was *created* here?
Makes it pretty easy to see where the "US has pretty much initiated the
whole thing" comes from... :-)
- --
Paul Doherty
Systems Analyst/Programmer
http://www.dfw.net/~pdoherty
Home of PC DiskMaster
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From: pdohert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Newsgroups: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:33:46 -0600
Organization: DFW Internet Services, Inc.
Michael Powe wrote:
> Doh! Computers were invented in England. Get it? If you don't, get
> a library card and do some reading. You <can> read something more
> complicated than a newsgroup, can't you?
Who invented the transistor, IC and microprocessor on which the first
computers were built? Without those technologies the chop-shopping
you're referring to (which is no more than Dell or Gateway does now) is
hardly an accomplishment. The *ability* to build a computer came from
the technologies developed over here, and unless you are demonstrating
prrof otherwise my statement stands.
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Paul Doherty
Systems Analyst/Programmer
http://www.dfw.net/~pdoherty
Home of PC DiskMaster
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Paul> If you'll note above the term "invention of computers" is
Paul> nowhere to be seen. What *is* seen is what I have been (and
Paul> still am) debating - that the "technical innovations in
Paul> computing *came* from the USA (transistor, IC,
Paul> microprocessor, etc)." So now that you've been shown wrong,
Paul> will you admit it, or try to twist what is easily proven (as
Paul> I just did) into something else?
It appears you're also confused about the substance of the argument as
well as the language used. First, you don't know that Americans did
not initiate the "computer revolution," as you claimed they did -- the
British did. Second, you don't not know that computers did not start
when the IC was invented. I rest my case. Now that you've been shown
wrong, will you admit it, or try to twist what is easily proven (as I
just did) into something else?
mp
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#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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