Linux-Misc Digest #40, Volume #28 Tue, 5 Jun 01 19:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: A plea to those posting questions (Steve Lamb)
named - fails to recognize service is already running?? (inetquestion)
Re: Mandrake 8: how to change timezone? (Grant Edwards)
Re: seeking Windows & Linux compatible email client (John Thompson)
Re: Making Linux partition bigger (John Thompson)
Re: A plea to those posting questions ("Peter T. Breuer")
Problem restarting (George Trapkov)
Re: A plea to those posting questions (Steve Lamb)
Re: A plea to those posting questions ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: rc.local file. (Scott R.)
Re: Problem restarting (J Hayward)
Re: i386,i486,i586 ... ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Problem restarting ("D. Stimits")
What program is responsible for user count? (Warren Bell)
Re: A plea to those posting questions ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: A plea to those posting questions
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:44:24 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:06:26 +0200, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>No, you don't understand. When *I* reply to someone I don't look to see
>if their email address is fake beforehand.
Oh, I understand completely, maybe you misunderstand. Unless the person
has specifically asked for an email response there is no compulsion for them
to munge because you /MAY/ decide to answer their message and you /MAY/ decide
to email that response.
If the person asked for an email respnse, fine. But the original poster
said that he liked to email as well as follow-up his reponses. That's his
choice and he, as well as you, need to deal with the real fact that people
munge email addresses.
>When writing the mail I can't see it. After I send the mail, I can't see it.
And in the case cited the email was not requested.
>DDDDDON'T MUNGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSS!!!! (screams).
Sorry, ain't unmunging.
>> deduced quite simply from any posting I make, just not the From like or the
>Idiot.
I'm not the one coming to a newsgroup and being so presumptuious as to say
"Pardon me, but since I might feel like answering you in email even though you
never asked me to. Thanks."
If the person asked, I agree, don't munge. But in the grand scheme of
things people don't ask for emails. I certainly don't, that is what my score
file is for. Idiot.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: inetquestion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.questions,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: named - fails to recognize service is already running??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 16:43:05 -0400
I'm running redhat 7.1 x86 and am having problems with linuxconf and
startup scripts. Under Control service activity I enabled named and iptables to
startup
automatically. Now even after reboot everytime I enter linuxconf I give me the
following message:
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
The state of the system is not in sync with the current/updated
configurations. You are allowed to make it current, or continue with
the current configurations.
Here are the commands to execute
The following command told me something had to be done
/etc/rc3.d/S58named probe
Executing: /etc/rc3.d/S55named start
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
If I allow it to start named I end up with a ton of named processes running. If I
choose do
nothing, and exit the system works as normal. However I always get the same message
the next time
I run linuxconf. I looked in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d and found two files that began with
S55* which were
S55named and S55sshd. I renamed S55named to S58named and restarted the system. Upon
entering
linuxconf I got the same message on exit except this time it was S58named instead of
S55named.
I'm not an expert on the System V startup process, but originall thouht this was
caused by two links
begging with the same number "S55", but I noticed that this is not the only occurance
of this, and
the other two services seem to have no problem.
also after bootup when I do "ps -ef | grep named"
I see at lease 4 instances of named running.
If anyone has any info as to why linuxconf never recognizes this as a running process
it would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 8: how to change timezone?
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:46:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave Uhring wrote:
>Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> I can not figure out how to set the timezone in Mandrake 8.0.
>>
>> Changing it in linuxconf has no effect.
>>
>> There doesn't seem to be an /etc/localtime or
>> /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime file, and the TZ environment
>> variable isn't set. Where does Mandrake store timezone
>> settings?
>
>man tzselect
I ran tzselect -- all it did was display a message saying to
set the TZ env variable in my .profile. I wanted to set the
default timezone for the machine, not override the incorrect
default for a single user.
>man timeconfig
No such beast.
Creating a symlink from /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime to
/usr/share/zoneinfo/CST6CDT solved the problem.
I still don't know why the install process didn't configure a
time zone.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I just had a NOSE
at JOB!!
visi.com
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: seeking Windows & Linux compatible email client
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:56:52 -0500
Helmut Haefner wrote:
> You can use Pegasus Mail on Windows and use the Unix format options
> for its Mail folders. These folders you can use with Kmail on Linux.
Another option would be a Java mail client like polarbar
(http://www.polarbar.org). I've used it on Win95, 98, OS/2 and
linux. Put the mail directories on a partition all the systems
can read (ie FAT16) if you want to keep it the same no matter
what system you happen to be using.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making Linux partition bigger
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 15:09:27 -0500
Frank McCormick wrote:
> When I installed Linux on my Windoze machine I thought 700 megs would be
> enough - now I find I am running out of space and want to enlarge the
> Linux partition.
> It was created along with the swap partition of 100 megs using Partition
> Magic.
> The question is can I shrink the W95 partition and enlarge the Linux
> partition without problems. Won't the bigger portion of the ex2
> partition have no file system ( well it'll have a FAT file system as
> the drive was formatted FAT32 originally ). What will Linux say about
> this ?
It should be fine as long as you don't change the device numbers
of your / and swap partitions. Even if you do change them you
can recover by booting from a floppy and running rdev to write
the new locations into your kernel -- just another step.
Partition Magic will take care of updating the ext2 filesystem
when you resize the partition. I've used it many times without
problems.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A plea to those posting questions
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:41:27 +0200
Larry Ebbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> How about just not mailing the response? Common theme on most newsgroups
>> that if someone asks a question on the newsgroup they can return to read the
>> replies there. If I ever ask a question I certainly am not going to undo my
>> spam protection nor will I point out that I don't want an email. I never
>> asked for the darned thing in the first place.
> Rats. I agree with you and I was going to have some fun.
Whilst he may not want one, he may get one. I often accidently hit r
(reply) instead of f (followup) because the mail and news interfaces
are similar and muscular reflexes take over. I don't find out until
I'm asked to confirm with s (send) instead of p (post). By then I've
lost the email address clues through editing and can't locate the
text through another news client because its already been purged from
my "unseen" list.
Some day I am going to have to invest some time in putting in a way
to "unsend and post instead".
Peter
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From: George Trapkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem restarting
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:24:56 -0400
Redhat 7.1: The computer hanged and when I restarted the computer after
trying to check the drives it reads:
An error occured during system check. Dropping you to a shell. Give root
password to repair or Ctrl-D for normal restart. I type the password and
I do not know what to do after. There is something saying about manual
fix and fsck or fcsk. What do I do?
Thanks
George
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: A plea to those posting questions
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:27:44 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:41:27 +0200, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Whilst he may not want one, he may get one.
Uh, no, I won't. That's the point of munging, isn't it? I'd call that a
success story.
>I often accidently hit r (reply) instead of f (followup) because the mail and
>news interfaces are similar and muscular reflexes take over.
Translation: Because *I* might make a mistake *YOU* should change your
ways to accommodate *ME*.
Arrogant much?
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A plea to those posting questions
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:29:50 GMT
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:06:26 +0200, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>No, you don't understand. When *I* reply to someone I don't look to see
>>if their email address is fake beforehand.
> Oh, I understand completely, maybe you misunderstand. Unless the person
> has specifically asked for an email response there is no compulsion for them
No, you do not understand. (a) Posting using a false identity may be
construed as deception; try posting as Tiger Woods. (b) it's against
netiquette (check! - I'm bored with quoting bits of the netiquette faq).
(c) you may not make public announcements anonymously in any country that I
know of, let alone the US - editors have gone to jail over that. (d),
it's simply obstreperous; if you don't feel like posting who you are,
I'm damned if I can be bothered to help A.Mongol.From.Outer.Space. (e)
if you're not brave enough to pronounce your own name in public, I don't
WANT to help you. (f) it displays sheer annoying ignorance of the
fact that spam can easily be filtered out. (g) it sets a bad example
for others, like smoking on the metro. I'll leave some more reasons
till later.
> to munge because you /MAY/ decide to answer their message and you /MAY/ decide
> to email that response.
Nope. Not get do you it.
> If the person asked for an email respnse, fine. But the original poster
> said that he liked to email as well as follow-up his reponses. That's his
> choice and he, as well as you, need to deal with the real fact that people
> munge email addresses.
>>When writing the mail I can't see it. After I send the mail, I can't see it.
> And in the case cited the email was not requested.
I don't know, nor do I care. Do you request every letter you get?
>>DDDDDON'T MUNGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSS!!!! (screams).
> Sorry, ain't unmunging.
As far as I can tell, you are posting from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (though it may be slamb@grey ...)
and if you are not, then you are misrepresenting yourself as being from
there, and perhaps I should let them know?
>>> deduced quite simply from any posting I make, just not the From like or the
I can't see any overt clues in your mail.
>>Idiot.
> I'm not the one coming to a newsgroup and being so presumptuious as to say
> "Pardon me, but since I might feel like answering you in email even though you
> never asked me to. Thanks."
Opinionated Thick-Skulled Dumbass. Has it occurred to you that people
may mail you because either they WANT to, or because they DON'T INTEND
to, or they don't know better, and that either way you are causing them
grief? Think of all the people who write to you asking for your advice
on how to spell "presumption", spend half an hour composing the mail,
and then get a bounce back. Oh, yeah, thumb your nose at them do
you? "not my affair", do you smirk? I find this holier-than-thou
nose-in-the-air smugness positively sickening.
> If the person asked, I agree, don't munge. But in the grand scheme of
> things people don't ask for emails. I certainly don't, that is what my score
> file is for. Idiot.
If your score file is so good, use it, don't brag about it.
Peter
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From: Scott R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rc.local file.
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:33:09 GMT
I wouldn't say that rc.local is the same as autoexec.bat. Actually
/etc/inittab is more like autoexec.bat. This is the first file which
'init' (the first process spawned after the kernel boots) looks at.
rc.local is the last script which is envoked when the machine boots up.
But, enough nitpicking. ;-)
You should be able to put regular command line programs at the end of
rc.local and they will work unless you are having some problem with the
command itself. For example, I put commands such as
modprobe sb
in my rc.local to load my sound module. What error is it giving you?
Scott
Liverpool_fc wrote:
> hello,
>
> it appears that in rh7.0 the rc.local file is the new autoexec.bat (dos)
> equivalent.
>
> however this file looks like a script. and i need to add a few services/
> modules that start on boot.
> example virtport (command) (options).
> from my experience if you fiddle with a script your syntax needs to be
> correct.
> adding a command line like the example above will cause the script to give
> errors.
>
> any suggestions?
>
> thank you.
>
>
>
>
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From: J Hayward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem restarting
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:47:02 -0700
Hello,
At the prompt type:
e2fsck -p device
replace device with the partition you want to check. example if your root
partition was the 3 partition of your primary master drive you would use:
e2fsck -p /dev/hda3
For ide hard drives:
primary master = hda
primary slave = hdb
secondary master = hdc
secondary slave = hdd
For scsi drives you would an "s" instead of the "h".
Regards,
Jim H
George Trapkov wrote:
> Redhat 7.1: The computer hanged and when I restarted the computer after
> trying to check the drives it reads:
> An error occured during system check. Dropping you to a shell. Give root
> password to repair or Ctrl-D for normal restart. I type the password and
> I do not know what to do after. There is something saying about manual
> fix and fsck or fcsk. What do I do?
> Thanks
> George
>
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: i386,i486,i586 ...
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 00:32:22 +0200
In comp.os.linux.misc Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually I have read an argument that the 586 "optimisation" is the
> worst of the whole lot, that it is slower than even 386. Have no idea if
> that argument is valid or not.
It'll be slower than i386 optimization on an i686 (i.e. todays machines),
yes. The i686 does dynamic optimization, thus any prior
optimization for a i586 (whoch has peculiar characteristics) unbalances
its statistically based algorithms.
Peter
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 16:53:09 -0600
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem restarting
George Trapkov wrote:
>
> Redhat 7.1: The computer hanged and when I restarted the computer after
> trying to check the drives it reads:
> An error occured during system check. Dropping you to a shell. Give root
> password to repair or Ctrl-D for normal restart. I type the password and
> I do not know what to do after. There is something saying about manual
> fix and fsck or fcsk. What do I do?
> Thanks
> George
First see which partition your system has mounted for "/". You can "cat
/etc/fstab" to see that...look for "/" as mount point. Assume for
example it is /dev/hda1. Run fsck.ext2 on that system, try first
automatic repair. If for some reason it fails, you must run as manual,
and answer yes to all repairs it wants to make. After this, chunks of
unrecognized file changes are moved to /lost+found/...you might be able
to view them and get an idea of what was damaged and lost, or more
likely not. Sample for automatic repair:
fsck.ext2 -a /dev/hda1
For manual:
fsck.ext2 -r /dev/hda1
Better yet, keep "man fstab" handy. It is possible that if the wrong
thing was damaged, you'll not be able to reboot even after repair.
D. Stimits, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What program is responsible for user count?
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 16:04:06 -0700
I have Redhat 7.1. When I log in to an account the system shows 1
user. When I start X the system shows two extra users logged in. When
I type who it show the real user on a tty and to pts/x users. So
typeing somthing like 'uptime' shows three users logged in when there's
only one. What could be causing this? What program keeps the user
count, maybe I can upgrade it?
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A plea to those posting questions
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:59:53 GMT
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:41:27 +0200, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>Whilst he may not want one, he may get one.
> Uh, no, I won't. That's the point of munging, isn't it? I'd call that a
> success story.
Get me annoyed enough and I'll definitely trace you down.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
looks most likely. Most of your posts seem to be about spam or related
mail or news topics. Some sort of fixation? Also
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
if it's the same person. Possibly a previous existance at an ISP.
>>I often accidently hit r (reply) instead of f (followup) because the mail
>>and news interfaces are similar and muscular reflexes take over.
> Translation: Because *I* might make a mistake *YOU* should change your
> ways to accommodate *ME*.
Translation: I take no account of other people.
> Arrogant much?
Peter
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