Linux-Misc Digest #70, Volume #28                Sun, 10 Jun 01 01:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Help on NFS ("ThanhVu Nguyen")
  Re: hardware autodetection ("Paul E. Bennett")
  Re: Good GUI mail clients? (Dave Uhring)
  Re: How to get bigger files? (Dave Uhring)
  Re: How to make a simple incremental backup to a diff.OS over the net? ("Ron")
  /bin/login cannot be removed (Dowson Tong)
  Re: windows 2000 and Linux ("D. Stimits")
  Re: /bin/login cannot be removed (David Efflandt)
  ARP proxy - help needed (Stan)
  Looking for small Linux distribution (Morten Skaarup Jensen)
  Re: ARP proxy - help needed (Dave Uhring)
  System freezes. . .  What to check? (Robert Chung)
  Re: /bin/login cannot be removed (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: System freezes. . .  What to check? (Dances With Crows)
  Problem with 'ls' (Phillip Geiger)

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From: "ThanhVu Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help on NFS
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 20:20:11 -0400

yes , both are running on C1 and C2

ng



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Paul E. Bennett")
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: hardware autodetection
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 01 10:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
           [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Peter T. Breuer" writes:

> In comp.os.linux.misc "Paul E. Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As the company, SiliCom, are based in Israel and emails are not 
> > being answered - no phone number and I haven't found their Web-site 
> > despite searching, I can understand the desire for a probe programme 
> > that reports all hardware and current settings.
> 
> Do as you would with any company that acts like that .. turn up
> at the shop you bought from, and tell them you'll avoid
> that companies products, and would they please get their pcmcia cards
> from reputable manufacturers who write drivers for their hardware that
> enable you to use it!

No point. The shop was in another city and have since then ceased to
trade. I have had the Slicom card a few years (as I stated) and I had
just transferred it from the old laptop to my new one only to find 
that DOS and Windows drivers were the only ones on the disk. Not much
use when you are changing OS to FreeBSD.

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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good GUI mail clients?
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:45:49 -0500

guesswho wrote:

> I'm currently using KMAIL, which meets my needs nicely.  However, I'm
> looking for other mail clients with support for the following:
> 
> multiple mailboxes
> POP
> IMAP
> filtering
> message searching
> mbox
> MIME
> 
> Anyone out there care to recommend a STABLE mail client that supports the
> above?  The reason I'm looking is that I'm considering a move to the GNOME
> environment.  Client must be GPLed.
> 

No need to abandon kmail just because you want to run the Gnome desktop.  
It will run from there nicely.  Also from fvwm2, AfterStep, etc.


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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to get bigger files?
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:53:41 -0500

Betastar wrote:

> On 9 Jun 2001 18:28:55 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
> wrote:
>>How many times does it have to be said?!  The 2G file size limitation is
>>*NOT* a limitation of the ext2 filesystem, and never has been!  Or was
>>that 17G partition dump I did several months ago on an ext2 filesystem
>>me hallucinating?
> 
> Thank you.  I knew I had read that ext2 can handle larger files, so I
> was waiting for another reply ;)
> 
> 
> 
>>So, what can you do?  Upgrade the kernel to 2.4.5, recompile your glibc
>>against the new kernel, and recompile the applications you use against
>>this new glibc.  Then everything will use 64 bits for file sizes and
>>file position offsets, and you can have 2T files.
> 
> I will try this, thank you.  Fortunately we have just recently
> installed Linux, so there's not a whole lot on there right now.
> Do I need to recompile things like MySQL server and stuff?  Or just
> things I've added since the initial install?
> 
>>The fact that you're using RH 7.1 and having this problem surprises me.
> 
> It surprised me too.  I thought these problems had been fixed, but
> apparently not in the kernel I've got.
> 
>>Check RedHat's website, search for "large file", see what you find?  It
>>would not surprise me if there were a few RPMs you could download for
>>large file support.
> 
> Thanks.  I've been trying to look under some combinations of the words
> File Size, Limit, Limitations etc.  Didn't think of "large file"
> 
> Betastar
> 
> 

You might also want to look into using SGI's XFS.  
http://linux-xfs.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html

An ISO install image is available which will work with RedHat-7.1.  Using 
it here but can't tell you anything about large file support.  It is 
absolutely stable and after a power outage rebooted with no problems or 
delays.


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From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.arch.storage,comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: How to make a simple incremental backup to a diff.OS over the net?
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:57:27 -0700

backups are slow period... schedule them for a time which
won't impact user/administrator access...

unless you like to watch the numbers change on the backups
screen...

Ron!

"Ronald Raulefs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Logan Shaw wrote:
> > Ronald Raulefs  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >         ufsdump 0f /dev/null /raid/linux/opt
> >
> > to see whether ufsdump is the bottleneck.
>
> ufsdump seems to be the bottleneck - why is so dammed slow? It has a fast
CPU,
> there is fast raid - how can I speed up ufsdump?
>
>
> > You don't want to use the Linux dump on a Solaris filesystem.  The
> > filesystems are not the same, and even if you could, you would not gain
> > that much anyway.
>
> Would you dump to Solaris x86 filesystem? Do you think that would cause
any
> probs?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ronald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowson Tong)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: /bin/login cannot be removed
Date: 9 Jun 2001 19:05:57 -0700

Linux Gurus,

Please help.

After I upgraded my system from RH 6.2 to RH 7.1, I found
that the login command is no longer working.  I can't login
from the console as root or as other users.

Then I noticed that the /bin/login has not been updated
during the upgrade.  When I tried to upgrade the util-linux
package, it fails because /bin/login cannot be renamed
or removed.  I tried different methods (including boot the
system in rescue mode) and yet I can't remove the /bin/login
executable.

# rm /bin/login
rm: remove write-protected file `/bin/login'? y
rm: cannot unlink `/bin/login': Operation not permitted
# mv /bin/login /bin/login.org
mv: cannot unlink `/bin/login': Operation not permitted
mv: cannot remove `/bin/login': Operation not permitted

I suspect that my system was hacked with a bad /bin/login.
Anyway, how can I removed this file under ext2?  I really
don't want to reformat my drive if possible...

thanks,
Dowson

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 20:49:39 -0600
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: windows 2000 and Linux

Josep wrote:
> 
> Hello all
> 
> I am currently running WIndows 2000 on my PC. I would like to use also
> Linux Red Hat 6.2. Unfortunately, my computer does not seem able to
> start from CD, so I am a bit lost concerning the installation. My PC
> currently has:

Very likely your computer *can* boot from cd, but the bios setting for
boot order is not set to do so. Most computers, right after turned on,
allow bios access via some special key like DEL or F9. Often during
memory check there is some note saying "hit such and such key for bios
setup". Somewhere is a boot order, and a floppy and IDE are usually
listed, sometimes CD. You will need to tell it to boot CD prior to hard
drive. The actual wording and location in bios is very dependent on the
exact hardware, so you're on your own to be very observant about the
first messages on startup to see how to get to bios setup.

D. Stimits, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> 
> - Windows 2000 Professional with SP 1 and SP 2
> - 20 Gb Hard disk as primary master
> - 4 Gb Hard disk as primary Slave
> - 24X CD-ROM drive
> 
> I still have plenty of space in the 20 Gb drive, so creating a partition
> of, say, 8 Gb for Linux would not be any problem. However, the software
> for partition management that comes with Linux is fips, and it doesn't
> cope well with Windows 2000. I also don't know how to make a bootable
> floppy disk in order to install Linux. There is also the fdisk option,
> but I would not like to have to install again all the software packages.
> 
> Could somebody give me some help to install Linux? It can be either
> straightforward instructions or an indication of the place where I could
> find such information
> 
> Regards
> 
> Josep

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: /bin/login cannot be removed
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:52:50 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 9 Jun 2001 19:05:57 -0700, Dowson Tong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Linux Gurus,
> 
> Please help.
> 
> After I upgraded my system from RH 6.2 to RH 7.1, I found
> that the login command is no longer working.  I can't login
> from the console as root or as other users.
> 
> Then I noticed that the /bin/login has not been updated
> during the upgrade.  When I tried to upgrade the util-linux
> package, it fails because /bin/login cannot be renamed
> or removed.  I tried different methods (including boot the
> system in rescue mode) and yet I can't remove the /bin/login
> executable.
> 
> # rm /bin/login
> rm: remove write-protected file `/bin/login'? y
> rm: cannot unlink `/bin/login': Operation not permitted
> # mv /bin/login /bin/login.org
> mv: cannot unlink `/bin/login': Operation not permitted
> mv: cannot remove `/bin/login': Operation not permitted
> 
> I suspect that my system was hacked with a bad /bin/login.
> Anyway, how can I removed this file under ext2?  I really
> don't want to reformat my drive if possible...

Maybe the attribute of /bin/login is set so it cannot be modified.  See:
man lsattr
man chattr

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From: Stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ARP proxy - help needed
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 21:25:49 -0400

Hi!

I am trying to add a proxy ARP entry for 1 IP address on Red Hat 6.2.

What I am doing is working, but the problem is, once I reboot the box
all the static entries from ARP cache disappear. I'm guessing I need to
add the arp commands to a script, but which one should I use? This is
probably a dumb question, but I'm relatively new to linux and have not
had much experience with modifying the startup environment :(

I'll describe what I'm doing in a little more details.

There are 2 interfaces on the linux box. For the sake of an argument,
the address IP address of eth1 is 192.168.10.100. I need to set up an
ARP proxy on that interface for 192.168.10.12.

I am doing this:

"arp -v -i eth1 -Ds 192.168.10.12 eth1"
"arp -v -i eth1 -Ds 192.168.10.12 eth1 pub"

Issuing "arp" after that returnes this ( I put xxx for obvious reasons):

209.208.183.1           ether   xxx:D3:9D:E3   C
eth1
10.10.10.12          ether   xxx:D6:32:2B   C                     eth0
192.168.10.12          ether   xxx:D4:8D:81   CM                    eth1

192.168.10.12          *       *                   MP
eth1

This works fine for me, with the exception that I can't figure out how
to make the arp cache entries permanent so they stay this way every time
I boot up.

Help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanx in advance,
Stan


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From: Morten Skaarup Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for small Linux distribution
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 05:04:03 +0200

I would like to install Linux on old machines, so I'm looking for a 
distribution not larger than about 50Mbytes.

I would like to have X included and if possible, easy to install from 
scratch (not from another OS).

At present I've looked on linuxlinks.com and at Micronix. The Micronix 
webpage doesn't work very well, so I'm having problems downloading (but it 
needs to install from DOS anyway).

Morten

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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ARP proxy - help needed
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:21:25 -0500

Stan wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I am trying to add a proxy ARP entry for 1 IP address on Red Hat 6.2.
> 
> What I am doing is working, but the problem is, once I reboot the box
> all the static entries from ARP cache disappear. I'm guessing I need to
> add the arp commands to a script, but which one should I use? This is
> probably a dumb question, but I'm relatively new to linux and have not
> had much experience with modifying the startup environment :(
> 
> I'll describe what I'm doing in a little more details.
> 
> There are 2 interfaces on the linux box. For the sake of an argument,
> the address IP address of eth1 is 192.168.10.100. I need to set up an
> ARP proxy on that interface for 192.168.10.12.
> 
> I am doing this:
> 
> "arp -v -i eth1 -Ds 192.168.10.12 eth1"
> "arp -v -i eth1 -Ds 192.168.10.12 eth1 pub"
> 
> Issuing "arp" after that returnes this ( I put xxx for obvious reasons):
> 
> 209.208.183.1           ether   xxx:D3:9D:E3   C
> eth1
> 10.10.10.12          ether   xxx:D6:32:2B   C                     eth0
> 192.168.10.12          ether   xxx:D4:8D:81   CM                    eth1
> 
> 192.168.10.12          *       *                   MP
> eth1
> 
> This works fine for me, with the exception that I can't figure out how
> to make the arp cache entries permanent so they stay this way every time
> I boot up.
> 
> Help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanx in advance,
> Stan
> 
> 

If you are running RedHat or Mandrake or similar, append your commands to 
/etc/rc.d/rc.local.

Come to think of it, that will work with Slackware, too.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Chung)
Subject: System freezes. . .  What to check?
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 03:56:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I just installed Redhat Linux 7.1 on my dual CPU machine.  Sometime
after I login to GNOME desktop, the whole system freezes.  Does anyone
know what I should check?

I also want to know how to login to plain text screen instead of
graphical GNOME desktop (and vice versa). Thank you in advance.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: /bin/login cannot be removed
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:06:46 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dowson Tong wrote:
>Linux Gurus,
>
>Please help.
>
>After I upgraded my system from RH 6.2 to RH 7.1, I found
>that the login command is no longer working.  I can't login
>from the console as root or as other users.
>
>Then I noticed that the /bin/login has not been updated
>during the upgrade.  When I tried to upgrade the util-linux
>package, it fails because /bin/login cannot be renamed
>or removed.  I tried different methods (including boot the
>system in rescue mode) and yet I can't remove the /bin/login
>executable.
>
># rm /bin/login
>rm: remove write-protected file `/bin/login'? y
>rm: cannot unlink `/bin/login': Operation not permitted
[-]
chattr -i /bin/login -- beware though, as the util-linux login
binary may not the one you want. Are you sure it is compatible
with RH's version ( shadow / PAM / ... ) ?

[-]
>I suspect that my system was hacked with a bad /bin/login.
>Anyway, how can I removed this file under ext2?  I really
>don't want to reformat my drive if possible...
[-]
I've done a chattr +i on quite some binaries, all in /sbin
for instance and all the shared libraries. Can help to avoid
a "Oh shhhhhhit" following a rm * as root in the wrong
directory.

Hope it helps, but be careful,
Juergen

-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: System freezes. . .  What to check?
Date: 10 Jun 2001 04:22:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 03:56:18 GMT, Robert Chung staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>I just installed Redhat Linux 7.1 on my dual CPU machine.  Sometime
>after I login to GNOME desktop, the whole system freezes.  Does anyone
>know what I should check?

...well, you know, there's a freeze, and there's a Freeze.  When the
system freezes up, what do you do?  Can you Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to kill X
and restart it?  If so, then there's a problem with X that is getting
triggered occasionally.  If that doesn't work, can you telnet in from
another machine and kill X, making the problem go away?  If that works,
then you have a slightly more serious problem with X.  If neither of
those work, can you use Alt-SysRq-S then Alt-SysRq-U then Alt-SysRq-B to
reboot the system in a partially sane manner?  If you have tried all
these, and you have to cycle power to get the system usable, there is
either a hardware problem or a serious kernel-level problem.

Are there any bread crumbs left in /var/log/messages when you have
restored the system to a usable state?  Also, more information about
your system would be helpful.  Which chipset, are you overclocking,
which graphics card, etcetera.

>I also want to know how to login to plain text screen instead of
>graphical GNOME desktop (and vice versa). Thank you in advance.

Press Ctrl-Alt-FX (where X is from 1 to 6) to get to virtual consoles 1
through 6, where you should find a console login being managed by
mingetty.  The graphical login display resides on virtual console 7 by
convention, so Ctrl-Alt-F7 to go there.  You can switch between/among
them at any time.

If you don't want to start X at boot time, boot the system with "linux
3" and the system will enter runlevel 3, which is the same as the
"normal" runlevel 5, except that X is not started.  You can edit
/etc/inittab to change the default runlevel, and you can also enter
"init 3" as root to switch to runlevel 3.

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http://www.brainbench.com     /   friend.  Inside of a dog, it's too dark
=============================/    to read.  ==Groucho Marx

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From: Phillip Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with 'ls'
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:31:24 +0000 (UTC)

I have a directory with something like 30,000 or 40,000
files in it.  I just need a simple text file with all of
the filenames in it, but
  ls * > files.txt
returns the error
  bash: /bin/ls: Argument list too long

What can I do to avoid this, beyond splitting up the work
by doing it a piece at a time, ie
  ls a* > afiles.txt
  ls b* > bfiles.txt
    ...

Thanks.


-- 
Phil Geiger
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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