Linux-Misc Digest #143, Volume #28 Mon, 18 Jun 01 07:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Lilo and IDE2/primary ("Eric")
Re: password encryption using crypt() ("D. Stimits")
Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows (tomtacks)
Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows (tomtacks)
Re: Mandrake 8.0 quota problems (maxime)
Re: Total Linux newbie (Corne Beerse)
Re: Splitting large OGG or WAV files (florian schmidt)
Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows (florian schmidt)
Re: Kein Sound (florian schmidt)
Re: Kein Sound (florian schmidt)
Help with ipchains and ip forwarding ("Nick Stabler")
Re: Pan newsreader program - can't post (florian schmidt)
Re: Kernel messages: is it really hd? ("Peet Grobler")
Re: OpenLDAP question (Alex Page)
how to play mpeg4 movies? (Grischa Stegemann)
Re: why is there no cut/copy option??? (John Beardmore)
Re: Postfix virtual domains aren't relayed (burk)
Re: Which Linux distribution should I better install ? (phil hunt)
Re: Would like to choose sig at post time (phil hunt)
Re: why is there no cut/copy option??? (Francois Labreque)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo and IDE2/primary
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:16:00 +0200
> I've been struggling to get Linux to but from Win2K loader. Normally this
is
> a simple task for me to do. However the problem is that /boot is not
above
> cylinder 1024
That's a problem???
> and is not on the primary hard drive. It is on IDE2 as the
> primary drive. I need Lilo to write the boot record to /dev/hdc2 and it
> appears to do that but it gives me a warning saying "/dev/hdc2 is not on
the
> first hard drive" or something in along those lines.
So? It isn't on the first drive, is it?
It's a valid warning.
What's your problem with it?
(I'm not trying to piss you off, I just don't get it)
> I've read the manpage
> for Lilo and can't figure out if I'm missing any particular command hooks.
> If anyone has had this problem before,
What problem?
You're being really cryptic.
I haven't read *one* problem in your post.
I suppose you cannot boot linux through the NT loader?
Describe the problems you have. What have you done.
Where and how does it fail.
Eric
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:18:20 -0600
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: password encryption using crypt()
Wong Ching Kuen Frederick wrote:
>
> i want to store some sort of passwd in a text file using the crypt function.
> however, i find out that the encrypted string is different at each time of
> generation. so how could i know the password entered by the user is the same
> as that in the database? thanks in advance.
>
> fred
The first two characters of the returned encrypted value are the salt.
If you encrypt with the same salt each time, it will work.
D. Stimits, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
------------------------------
From: tomtacks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:30:05 -0000
phil hunt wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:22:30 GMT, Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:53:09 +0100, phil hunt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>I was under the impression that WinZip could deal with .tgz
> >>and .tar.gz files (same file format, different extension)? Is
> >>this not the case? Or is there some subtle problem with GNU tar?
> >
> >I have been able to open tar files using WinZip on windows NT. I
> >know I opened a couple last week at work.
>
> Could you do me a favour please and have a look at:
>
> http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/parrot/parrot-0.2.6.tgz
>
> and:
>
> http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/stes/stes-0.1.tgz
>
> Can you unpack these correctly?
>
> > I didn't notice
> >whether those files had .tgz or tar.gz extensions but I suspect
> >that they were tar.gz. I really don't see many files with .tgz
> >extentions anymore. I think that naming practice was more popular
> >when both windows and linux allowed fairly short file names.
>
> I started using .tgz in 1999 when I released parrot, which is
> written in Python and should run on Windows and Mac boxes as
> well as Linux/Unix.
>
> >>Do I need to save the packages as .zip archives, for Windows
> >>users to be able to unpack them?
> >
> >A zip would be best because not everyone has WinZip, but infozip
> >is free. It's reasonable to tell people to grap Infozip's unzip
> >program, but that won't handle tar files. Hopefully you
> >are providing the Windows users with files that use the DOS
> >line terminators which means a separate archive anyway.
>
> At the moment there is only one archive per package, the .tgz
> one. A complexity here is that just because it's a .zip file,
> doesn't mean it will be used by a Windows user -- it could be
> a Unix or Mac user. Of the open source programs available on my
> site, one is Unix-specific but the other 3 should run on Win
> of Mac boxes with few changes, or indeed on other environments that
> run C++ or Python.
>
> I am thinking of writing a utility that will do the tarring and
> zipping, and automatically upload to the website and other stuff.
> It'll be written in Python and user configurable so people can
> adapt it to their requirements.
>
> > I think
> >you can use infozip with the right parameters to fix the line
> >terminations on the fly.
>
> Yes, in infozip the -l and -ll options do this.
>
> --
> ## Philip Hunt ##
> ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
>
>
>
Yup. Ive tried unpacking those files using winzip in WinNT but when using
winzip in Win98/95, it doesnt unpack.. I dont know why?
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
------------------------------
From: tomtacks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:30:06 -0000
phil hunt wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:22:30 GMT, Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:53:09 +0100, phil hunt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>I was under the impression that WinZip could deal with .tgz
> >>and .tar.gz files (same file format, different extension)? Is
> >>this not the case? Or is there some subtle problem with GNU tar?
> >
> >I have been able to open tar files using WinZip on windows NT. I
> >know I opened a couple last week at work.
>
> Could you do me a favour please and have a look at:
>
> http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/parrot/parrot-0.2.6.tgz
>
> and:
>
> http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/stes/stes-0.1.tgz
>
> Can you unpack these correctly?
>
> > I didn't notice
> >whether those files had .tgz or tar.gz extensions but I suspect
> >that they were tar.gz. I really don't see many files with .tgz
> >extentions anymore. I think that naming practice was more popular
> >when both windows and linux allowed fairly short file names.
>
> I started using .tgz in 1999 when I released parrot, which is
> written in Python and should run on Windows and Mac boxes as
> well as Linux/Unix.
>
> >>Do I need to save the packages as .zip archives, for Windows
> >>users to be able to unpack them?
> >
> >A zip would be best because not everyone has WinZip, but infozip
> >is free. It's reasonable to tell people to grap Infozip's unzip
> >program, but that won't handle tar files. Hopefully you
> >are providing the Windows users with files that use the DOS
> >line terminators which means a separate archive anyway.
>
> At the moment there is only one archive per package, the .tgz
> one. A complexity here is that just because it's a .zip file,
> doesn't mean it will be used by a Windows user -- it could be
> a Unix or Mac user. Of the open source programs available on my
> site, one is Unix-specific but the other 3 should run on Win
> of Mac boxes with few changes, or indeed on other environments that
> run C++ or Python.
>
> I am thinking of writing a utility that will do the tarring and
> zipping, and automatically upload to the website and other stuff.
> It'll be written in Python and user configurable so people can
> adapt it to their requirements.
>
> > I think
> >you can use infozip with the right parameters to fix the line
> >terminations on the fly.
>
> Yes, in infozip the -l and -ll options do this.
>
> --
> ## Philip Hunt ##
> ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
>
>
>
Yup ive tried unpacking the said files using winzip in WinNT but when i
use winzip in Win98/95, it doesnt unpack. I dont know why.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (maxime)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 8.0 quota problems
Date: 18 Jun 2001 00:38:51 -0700
With the new kernel 2.4, quota management change. Yopu say the
filesystem is mounted with usrquota.. Before you can this in
/etc/mtab, yet you this is in /etc/fstab. Another before you work with
/dev/sdb1, yet you work directly with /home for example... And the
format of quota file is diferent, you don't use edquota but easily
setquota.
Wht's error appear when you run quotacheck ?
Michal Dobaczewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<9ggas2$hg0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hi,
>
> I recently installed the Mandrake 8.0 on one of our computers here, and I
> can't figure out how to setup quota. I am by no means an expert, but I had
> some experience with earlier systems (i.e. Mdk 6.1, RedHat 6.2 ) and never
> run into this kind of problem:
>
> when I run quotacheck it scans the filesystem but doesn't produce the
> aquota.* (nor quota.* ) files. No errors whatsoever. I run quotacheck as
> root, the filesystem is mounted with usrquota. Basicaly I do everything
> just as I would do with earlier versions, on which it works fine.
>
> So, what's different in Mdk 8.0?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Michal.
------------------------------
From: Corne Beerse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Total Linux newbie
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:30:12 +0200
Taavi Hein wrote:
>
> : newbies is Mandrake 8.0 or SuSE 7.1 or RedHat 7.1. These are far more
>
> I wouldn't suggest RedHat, at least not 7.0 or 7.1 they do look friendly and
> easy, but there are some important stuff, that's broken and to hard to
> repair for a complete beginner. SuSE 7.1 seems nice though, haven't found
> any serious flaws yet (except I cant locate the package that contains the
> 'adduser' program), but I have been using it for less than a week now.
That 'add user' functionallity in suse is in yast (or yast2, whichever
you have installed).
If you have the money, buy a package. I have good experience with suse
(6.1 and now migrating to 7.1) If you only copy the CD's, the book is
somewhere on cd1.
>
> --
> Taavi Hein - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Registered Linux user #209546
> Registered Linux machine #97395
--
Everything should be as simple as possible but not simpler - A. Einstein
Corne' Beerse | Alcatel Telecom Nederland
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (florian schmidt)
Subject: Re: Splitting large OGG or WAV files
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:50:47 GMT
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:37:01 -0700, quasimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> but another thing: why don't u just burn a data-cd. as i can see it, u
>> are trying to burn the track as an audio-cd. and the audio cd format
>> is 44.100khz, sterero, 16 bits. but nobody keeps u from just burning
>> this file as ordinary data. then it can't be played in a cd player,
>> but your frinds with their computers can play it..
>To be honest, I didn't know that cdrecord was converting the WAV to audio
>cd format--but that is irrelevant, since the size of the file (1.1 GB) is
i didn't know that either, since i never used that program.. i just
thought so, because cdrecorr would probably not complain, if u try to
burn the mono file (500something megs), on a data-cd with an iso 9660
files system..
>too big to fit on CD even as a simple data file. In any case, the solution
>proved to be simple as your suggestion to use the "split" utility did the
>trick. It seems there is no end to the variety of LInux tools
>available--the biggest problem is knowing where to look!
hmm, what just after posting ocurred to me, is the question, if split
and join existed for windoze, too, but then i thought "sure, and if
not, they would not be to hard to write, so somebody must have done
that allready".. :)
--
Florian Schmidt
mista.tapasATgmx.net
http://mini.gt.owl.de/~floh
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (florian schmidt)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:50:48 GMT
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:53:09 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil
hunt) wrote:
>However, some people have recently emailed me, saying they can't
>unpack thmr on their windows machines. I tried this, using Windows98
>Netscape, and WinZip, and I couldn't unpack them either.
i think i once heard something about a weird bug in netscape (no
guarantee for this info), which had something to do with saving tgz
and tar.gz files correctly. i think it was something about
mime-types.. but dunno. i would try downloading them with ms
iexplorer.. if that doesn't help, look, if a recent version of winzip
is used. maybe older ones suck..
maybe, the exact command for tarring the files would help, too. is
there any incompatible ms-unfriendly modes of "tar" (like some
permission thingie, or so?)
--
Florian Schmidt
mista.tapasATgmx.net
http://mini.gt.owl.de/~floh
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (florian schmidt)
Subject: Re: Kein Sound
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:50:49 GMT
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:00:15 +0200, Dennis Toelle
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hallo!
>
>Also ich stehe kurz vorm Verzweifeln (ok, nicht ganz ;)
>Ich habe meine Soundkarte mit Yast 2 eingerichtet und es gab auch keinerlei
>Probleme (es wurde sogar der richtige Chipsatz angegeben), bis auf das ich
>beim 'Test'-Button keinene Test-Sound gehoert habe.
>Ich habe bereits die Eintraege von Yast 2 aus der modules.conf und der
du solltest mal probieren, mit einem mixer den master und lineout
ausgang auch wirklich hochzudrehen.. das hat mich mal 3 tage
gekostet.. ;)
wenn du kde installiert hast, kanns du
kmix
tippen, und ein mixer sollte hochkommen..
--
Florian Schmidt
mista.tapasATgmx.net
http://mini.gt.owl.de/~floh
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (florian schmidt)
Subject: Re: Kein Sound
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:50:50 GMT
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:33:15 +0100, David Griffith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> configuration to check is. What can I still make, thus my loudspeakers
>> again sound out-spit? Cu, Dennis.
>
>This is babelfishes best attempt at german to english
>
babelfish is always a laugh ;) but with some imagination one can
pretty much understand everything that's needed (but that's maybe,
because i'm german, too):.
--
Florian Schmidt
mista.tapasATgmx.net
http://mini.gt.owl.de/~floh
------------------------------
From: "Nick Stabler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with ipchains and ip forwarding
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:34:17 +0800
I am running Redhat Linux 7.0 as a gateway/firewall machine on an ADSL
connection to the net. This will soon be changed to either 6.2 or 7.1 due
to the few probs with certain packages in this distribution ;)
I will be running another internal linux machine (192.168 .x.x) which will
provide webserving to the internal network and the rest of the internet. I
am wondering if it is possible using ipchains to forward requests for port
80 on my gateway from the outside world to the internal machine (say at
192.168.0.4 port 80). If this can be done with ipchains please let me know,
or if it can be done by any other method. All I read about is
portforwarding to services on the same machine.
I have read heaps of articles and books but can't quite find out how to do
this.
Excuse me if this is really easy, and I am really dumb :P
Thanks heaps
Nick
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (florian schmidt)
Subject: Re: Pan newsreader program - can't post
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:43:17 GMT
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:09:54 +0100, "phil hunt"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I looked in the configuration, and the line for default mail was
>> something like xterm -e mutt and then the %t,%R stuff for sender etc.
>> From what I gathered from the man pages, xterm -e starts up another
>> program in this case mutt. But I couldn't find anything on mutt. I use
>> kmail for my mail client. Am I correct in thinking I need to point pan
>> to kmail to send a message out,
>
>I wouldn't have thought so. Mutt's an email program; when posting
>as news post it needs to be sent to your newsserver using the nntp
>protocol -- email has nothing to do with it, it's just that email and
>news use similar formats.
>
>I am replying to your message using Pan... let's see if you get this.
i tried pan, but it never realy worked for me (even with the newest
0.97presomething release). it would lose postings, lose lines in
postings, complain, that there is no new content in my posting, though
i there was, etc.. now i am using freeagent with wine. works
excellent... nobody else had these issues with pan? i reallly liked
the design, but it was plain to buggy for me..
--
Florian Schmidt
mista.tapasATgmx.net
http://mini.gt.owl.de/~floh
------------------------------
From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: Re: Kernel messages: is it really hd?
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:17:23 +0200
Check the box's memory. I solved my problems using different memory sticks.
rennix wrote in message ...
>"Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za> wrote in message
news:<3b287da0$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> /snip/
>> >
>> >The 2.4.X kernel is your problem here. Boot from the 2.2.XX kernel and
>> >your problems will disappear.
>> >
>> >I installed Red Hat 7.1 on a system which gave the exact same error
>> >messages with RH's 2.4.2 kernel and got rid of the problem by installing
a
>> >2.2.19 kernel.
>> >
>> >Fundamentally, if you are using legacy hardware then use a legacy
kernel.
>>
>> I've had the same messages in 2.0.35 and 2.2.18. I don't think it's a
kernel
>> problem.
>
>
>hmmm, so is it the hd then? I don't dare to boot the damn thing
>because I don't know if I can trust the backup which I quickly made
>after these messages apeared. I mean, if it can't read from the hd,
>how is it going to backup?
>I use Arcserve 7.0 on my backupServer and the Agent on my faulty box
>didn't report any problems, but who knows?
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Page)
Subject: Re: OpenLDAP question
Date: 18 Jun 2001 03:21:27 -0700
Dustin Puryear wrote:
> On 15 Jun 2001 05:24:22 -0700, Alex Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >dn: ou=it,dc=begbroke,dc=solid-state-logic,dc=com
> >ou: it
> >objectclass: organisationalunit
> Don't you mean organizationalUnit and not organisationalUnit?
AAAaaaaaarrrgh! *beats head into nearest wall*
Man, I've got to learn how to speak American...
Thanks very much!
Alex
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grischa Stegemann)
Subject: how to play mpeg4 movies?
Date: 18 Jun 2001 10:32:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all
A few months ago one told me that there is no way to play mpeg4 movies
with Linux.
Well, did things change meanwhile? In particular I am looking for a
way to play mpeg4v2 (MP42) coded avi files. Is this possible these
days?
What about divX? AFAIK it is derived from mpeg4 but cannot be used to
play original mpeg4 movies but maybe one can convert them to divX.
Any help appreciated.
Bye, Grischa
--
=========================================================================
Grischa Stegemann Technische Universit�t Berlin --
------------------------------
From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: why is there no cut/copy option???
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:29:45 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>"Jeff D. Hamann" wrote:
>> Why is there no cut/copy option in the GNOME terminal window? That's really
>> annoying since I want to build a script file using sql statements from MySQL
>> and want to be able to paste them into a script file, but don;t want to run
>> the entire script each time to find out of the query in question worked
>> correctly.
>
>Highlight the text you want to copy then move to the window you want to
>paste it into and center click where you want it.
How do you centre click with a two button mouse ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (burk)
Subject: Re: Postfix virtual domains aren't relayed
Date: 18 Jun 2001 10:36:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:18:46 GMT, A De Graaf wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>I've got a big problem concerning virtual domain relaying. All email that is
>sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
>This is very wrong..... Can someone please help me out?
>
OK, I don't have the same exact configuration of postfix as you do,
but try this:
In your /etc/postfix/virtual file
# postfix virtual
bunkintermedia.nl VIRTUAL004
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Then run the postmap command on your virtual file. (important!)
Does this help?
-burk
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - No Spam Please!
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Subject: Re: Which Linux distribution should I better install ?
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:13:20 +0100
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:21:27 +0200, Olivier Mascia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>( The kernel itself is what is most important to me, so a distribution
>known to track kernel development closely will be higher on my shopping
>list. But among those (I hope there are some filling at least that
>requirement), I'd like to select a distribution which bring some goodies. I
>need an office suite, excellent email connectivity (I already miss IMAP
>which I was used to under Windows). As much developer's tools as possible
>(C/C++ compiler, and all that could follow). Web server (development
>purposes), ftp server (same reason). My choice of database is InterBase /
>Firebird. )
Suse contains a large number of packages, over 7 CD-ROMs.
--
## Philip Hunt ##
## [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Subject: Re: Would like to choose sig at post time
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:17:10 +0100
On 17 Jun 2001 22:20:13 GMT, Larry Ebbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I would like to be able to choose my signature dynamically,
>according to the object of the post. I have gotten used
>to this using PMmail on OS/2. Normally, I have a simple
>sig (see below). but on an F-150 mailing list I use,
>everyone likes to see a list of what goodies are installed
>on your truck. I have a sneaking suspicion that nobody
>on the linux lists wants to see this <g>.
kmail allows you to grap your signature as the output from a
program. So you could write a simple program (I'd use
Python/Tkinter) that when run pops up a window with a list
of possible sigs, when you click on one of them it sends
it to stdout and exits. Then tell kmail you want to
get your sig from this program.
(Not tried it, but I think it should work)
--
## Philip Hunt ##
## [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
------------------------------
From: Francois Labreque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: why is there no cut/copy option???
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:05:32 -0400
John Beardmore wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >"Jeff D. Hamann" wrote:
>
> >> Why is there no cut/copy option in the GNOME terminal window? That's really
> >> annoying since I want to build a script file using sql statements from MySQL
> >> and want to be able to paste them into a script file, but don;t want to run
> >> the entire script each time to find out of the query in question worked
> >> correctly.
> >
> >Highlight the text you want to copy then move to the window you want to
> >paste it into and center click where you want it.
>
> How do you centre click with a two button mouse ?
Make sure your XF86Config file has the line
Emulate3Buttons (or something like that!)
Uncommented and hit the the two mouse buttons simultaneously.
--
Francois Labreque | It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it
flabreque | is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
@ | the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a
videotron.ca | warning, it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in
| motion.
- Stolen from Badger's .sig file
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list by posting to comp.os.linux.misc.
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************
