Hi Dell,

I had already removed OMSA from my servers due to issues like this. But I kept 
DSU on the assumption that as it was much simpler there was much less room for 
it to break things and I have now been proved wrong. I will now be removing DSU 
as well, so much for an easy way to update firmware... Sigh!

It is really sad to see that Dell does not take proper enterprise seriously and 
allows for such problems to go on and on. Dell should really consider assigning 
someone with systems administration experience to counsel the DSU dev team and 
review their decisions.

Next time I need to purchase more servers I'll take a good look at other 
manufacturers..., I like Dell but this kind of problems really make my life 
more difficult.

Best,

--
Diego Santa Cruz, PhD
IT Administrator
T +41 21 341 15 50
[email protected]
spinetix.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Mooney
Sent: 03 April 2017 21:52
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] dell-system-update package 1.4.0-17.02.00

In regard to: Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] dell-system-update package...:

> I will say as a sysadmin that many project devs seem to just use 
> newest versions of libs in their apps just "because they can" with out 
> an real need and thus agrevate sysadmins supporting older OSes like 
> RHEL6 for no good reason.  Very much a pet peeve of mine.

+1, and that's really crucial for developers to understand.  They should
be depending on system libraries (and system commands) provided by the OS 
vendor if at all possible, and there should be an extremely good reason (not 
just "I want to", or "it's new and shiny") provided (and it should be clearly 
communicated to the customer!) when they deviate from that.

Even if Dell had carefully insulated their shadow copies of various libraries 
from the rest of the OS, I still have a problem with needlessly shipping their 
own variants -- security updates.  OS vendors are typically quick and 
coordinated when it comes to releasing updates for security flaws.
If Dell's software depended on system libraries and commands only, then DSU and 
other tools would get the security updates when the rest of the OS does.  
Dell's response to nearly every issue I've seen reported via this list is 
"we'll fix it in 3-6 months in the next feature release", which wouldn't cut it 
if there were a security issue with their local copy of some command or library.

Tim
-- 
Tim Mooney                                             [email protected]
Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure                  701-231-1076 (Voice)
Room 242-J6, Quentin Burdick Building                  701-231-8541 (Fax)
North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105-5164

_______________________________________________
Linux-PowerEdge mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge

_______________________________________________
Linux-PowerEdge mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge

Reply via email to