On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:59:48 +0300 Simos Xenitellis
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >
> It has been said already that there are two main options:
> 
> 1. Start working at once with the AW engineers to send upstream any
> code that is missing (Linux kernel drivers, make upstream u-boot work
> with all AW SoCs, etc). As a resource, those two Linux kernel
> engineers from AW are available to help now. The access to the AW
> kernel engineers is the most important resource.
> Then, the GPL issues would be gradually resolved.
> 
> 2. Get AW to spend resources to go through and vet tarballs of source
> code. I suppose it would take a lot of resources from AW, the result
> would be old versions of the source code and we would not have
> started yet to talk to the engineers.
> This option is a painful option, and should only be the last option.
> 
> In both options, the end result would probably be the same, however
> Option 1 will get results faster and is the most beneficial for the
> future of the community.
> 
> As a community, it makes sense to try Option 1 and see where it gets
> us in, let's say, three months. If we do not get any results, then
> many more may choose to go for Option 2.
> 
> It worries me however that for Option 1, Luc will make this list a
> living hell. He will sabotage any effort in order not to be proved
> "wrong". In this sense, it would be silly for an AW engineer to join
> the list and attempt to discuss here. I can already predict endless
> questions about licensing towards the engineers (these are not for
> the engineers to discuss).

Why Luc, and not me, or any other else?
Because was only him, that took the trouble to document in the wiki the
"license compliance issues" that were already know more than 1 year ago.
And to have pointed that this "license compliance issues" is a stopper
 * to the progression of the mainline work
 * to have serious companies(that care about respecting licenses) take
   allwinner socs serious

Look at this
http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/08/26/allwinner-a80-linux-sdk-released/
read the comments, who will take allwinner serious?

We, this community, can help allwinner find solutions to resolve this
mess, only allwinner needs to have the "will" to actually listening to
us.


> 
> We have the opportunity to draw a line and move forward.
> Which one is the smartest option?

None is the smartest option. Both options are complementary to each
other. That means that there is no need to choose.

Nobody is stopping allwinner engineers to participate in this maillist,
or in any other way that is suited to work for mainline kernel.
If they wish. They know what to do, if not we are here to help them.


> Simos
> 



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