Hi Luc,

I'm going to respond to your email in several parts. Let's start with
the device page:

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Luc Verhaegen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 03:45:59PM +1000, Julian Calaby wrote:
>> Hi Luc,
>> > And to top it all off, once again, the statements seem to be coming from
>> > someone who never did bring up a device from scratch:
>> > http://linux-sunxi.org/Special:Contributions/JulianCalaby
>>
>> I have a sunxi device, it's a Kogan Agora tablet with a sun4i SoC.
>>
>> I've been through the entire NDH, including running the Sunxi 3.4
>> kernel on it and have everything ready to be sent off. The only
>> reasons why I haven't are:
>> 1. I lost the free time I was using for this and never "completed" it.
>> (Hence the incomplete device page which you justifiably deleted a
>> while back.)
>> 2. I wanted to have this be the first device to come through the tool
>> I was developing in that time to assist in this process (again, halted
>> due to lack of spare time)
>>
>> If you'd like, I can send off that stuff tonight, so you can have some
>> hard proof that I have actually been through this entire process.
>>
>> Personally, I see it as being very straight forward, but then I've
>> been compiling my own kernels and submitting the occasional patch to
>> various mailing lists for close to a decade. The hardest part for me
>> was actually identifying my device as it's a rebranded mishmash of
>> about 3 different, more "known" tablets.
>
> The fact that you only now created the wiki page _shows_ that you never
> really followed the NDH. You followed those bits that seemed to suit you
> most directly. Not what is standard procedure, not what helps others or
> draw more people into this community.

I created it before, ran out of time and never completed it. You were
the one who deleted it as it was incomplete and I was the only source
of info for it. Something which, as I said in the private emails we
exchanged at the time, was perfectly justified and I had no problems
with whatsoever. I fucked up, you improved stuff, no complaints here.

However now this is somehow proof that I've have idea what I'm talking
about. I'm not really following your logic here.

> It's amazing how you are so high and mighty, and talk so big about what
> should be written where, when you yourself refuse to follow simple and
> straight directives. Out of laziness.
>
> Creating that device page today does make amends, of sorts, but it
> doesn't hide the above facts. Also, the way in which you created this
> page once again showed that you did not stick to the template at all,
> and only implemented those bits which suited you most directly. Quite
> perpendicular to your statements.

I copied the template, filled in _everything_ that I had which was
applicable to that tablet / board. If I deleted parts of the template
it's because they seemed to be useless or I had no info for them.

In addition to the items below, could you please give me a list of
what you'd like added. I'll do my best to add that info.

I must also note that I ran into the problem where I want to document
the board, not the tablet as the tablets it's in appear to be quite
rare amongst developers / Linux enthusiasts.

> Having said that, for a first stab, your device page was of a higher
> standard than those i usually see.

Thanks.

Oh, in regards to the website field in the infobox: Kogan no-longer
sells this tablet and therefore don't have a page describing it. Also
iNet doesn't have a product page for this board either, so there's no
page to put here. Do you want that field to be deleted or should I
just leave it as it is now?

> What the page still needs is:
> * some quick measurements

I would have added that last night but I didn't have a ruler on me.
I'll measure it tonight.

> * android information from the original image.

It ran Ice Cream Sandwich and is such a shit android build that I'd
prefer to deny it's existence than potentially inflict it on someone
else.

I cannot provide any further details from Android as it currently
won't boot. Also, the details which were in Android (this is where I
get the KATBL number from) appear to be specific to that tablet, not
the board itself. I strongly suspect that they're different for all
the tablets I listed at the bottom and therefore won't be helpful in
identifying the board. I've added what I have.

> * FEL button, and a confirmation that the hw button is a reset button.

I believe the "UBOOT" pad can be used as a FEL button - I've clarified
that. I've also added details about the reset button.

> * disassembly information.

Disassembly is identical to an Eken A90 or any other tablet with the
same body. There are guides on Youtube. I've described the basic
procedure and linked to them.

> These are some very crucial parts to any device page, and they should
> not be ignored.

I've added what I can here, I'll add what else I can tonight.

> Now if those are added, i will push up the uboot and boards patches, and
> remove the NDH_TODO status.

I note that you've renamed the uboot target and file in the device
page. I'll re-send the patches with the new names tonight.

Thanks,

-- 
Julian Calaby

Email: [email protected]
Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/julian.calaby/

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"linux-sunxi" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Reply via email to