Hi Luc,

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Julian Calaby <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Luc,
>
> I'm going to respond to your email in several parts. Let's start with
> the device page:
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Luc Verhaegen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 03:45:59PM +1000, Julian Calaby wrote:
>>> Hi Luc,
>>> > And to top it all off, once again, the statements seem to be coming from
>>> > someone who never did bring up a device from scratch:
>>> > http://linux-sunxi.org/Special:Contributions/JulianCalaby
>>>
>>> I have a sunxi device, it's a Kogan Agora tablet with a sun4i SoC.
>>>
>>> I've been through the entire NDH, including running the Sunxi 3.4
>>> kernel on it and have everything ready to be sent off. The only
>>> reasons why I haven't are:
>>> 1. I lost the free time I was using for this and never "completed" it.
>>> (Hence the incomplete device page which you justifiably deleted a
>>> while back.)
>>> 2. I wanted to have this be the first device to come through the tool
>>> I was developing in that time to assist in this process (again, halted
>>> due to lack of spare time)
>>>
>>> If you'd like, I can send off that stuff tonight, so you can have some
>>> hard proof that I have actually been through this entire process.
>>>
>>> Personally, I see it as being very straight forward, but then I've
>>> been compiling my own kernels and submitting the occasional patch to
>>> various mailing lists for close to a decade. The hardest part for me
>>> was actually identifying my device as it's a rebranded mishmash of
>>> about 3 different, more "known" tablets.
>>
>> The fact that you only now created the wiki page _shows_ that you never
>> really followed the NDH. You followed those bits that seemed to suit you
>> most directly. Not what is standard procedure, not what helps others or
>> draw more people into this community.
>
> I created it before, ran out of time and never completed it. You were
> the one who deleted it as it was incomplete and I was the only source
> of info for it. Something which, as I said in the private emails we
> exchanged at the time, was perfectly justified and I had no problems
> with whatsoever. I fucked up, you improved stuff, no complaints here.
>
> However now this is somehow proof that I've have idea what I'm talking
> about. I'm not really following your logic here.
>
>> It's amazing how you are so high and mighty, and talk so big about what
>> should be written where, when you yourself refuse to follow simple and
>> straight directives. Out of laziness.
>>
>> Creating that device page today does make amends, of sorts, but it
>> doesn't hide the above facts. Also, the way in which you created this
>> page once again showed that you did not stick to the template at all,
>> and only implemented those bits which suited you most directly. Quite
>> perpendicular to your statements.
>
> I copied the template, filled in _everything_ that I had which was
> applicable to that tablet / board. If I deleted parts of the template
> it's because they seemed to be useless or I had no info for them.
>
> In addition to the items below, could you please give me a list of
> what you'd like added. I'll do my best to add that info.
>
> I must also note that I ran into the problem where I want to document
> the board, not the tablet as the tablets it's in appear to be quite
> rare amongst developers / Linux enthusiasts.
>
>> Having said that, for a first stab, your device page was of a higher
>> standard than those i usually see.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Oh, in regards to the website field in the infobox: Kogan no-longer
> sells this tablet and therefore don't have a page describing it. Also
> iNet doesn't have a product page for this board either, so there's no
> page to put here. Do you want that field to be deleted or should I
> just leave it as it is now?

Another infobox question: Could you please change the Video options in
the device page example to "HDMI (Type A/C/D - full/mini/micro), VGA"
as Type B is unlikely to be seen on a consumer tablet.

I'd do it myself, but I don't have permission.

Thanks,

-- 
Julian Calaby

Email: [email protected]
Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/julian.calaby/

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