Hi,

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 20:41:36 +0100 Michal Suchanek <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On 5 March 2015 at 18:35, Henrik Nordström
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > ons 2015-03-04 klockan 17:41 +0000 skrev Manuel Braga:
> >
> >> What we get? Just indifference that the reverse engineering effort
> >> even exists.
> >
> > Sorry you get this impression.

Who is not guilt, don't raise the hand.

Just that this video engine has been so problematic not only for me
and the others involved, but also for all sunxi "community".



> >
> > I know I have been silent, but that's mostly because video is not
> > something I am interested in, and especially not Allwinners binary
> > take on it. But it does not mean that I am indifferent to your
> > effort, not at all, to me the documentation of the CedarX hardware
> > and proof of concept software was and is very important, even if
> > far from feature complete.
> >
> 
> It WorksForMe(tm). I can play video with mplayer which is how I use
> video most of the time even on systems with multiple choices of a
> media player. And with opensource drivers which I can expect to
> continue working as long as sunxi hardware has any use. Thanks for
> that.
> 
> Yes, it is a gross hack. But for more progress the other parts to
> which the VE engine is to be hooked have to be ready - like the KMS
> driver. Technically one can be writing a VE driver without a KMS
> driver which is then just plugged in ... and you can see all the bugs
> then.

The video engine is the least priority item in the wish list, but is
dependent of all the others. I understand that, and also don't see a
point of wasting time in a 100% open source driver and software for it,
if the only way to use it requires hardware that is limited by binaries
blobs (for example; dram initialization). This is not me going for a
full 100% or nothing, just a question of priorities.

Did you every see me asking for KMS(or whatever name) driver? You don't
because i never asked. Why? Because i don't need to ask. 





> ...
> 
> So, please, try to limit the corrosive and bitter posts.
>

And again the discussing went the same path.

I like that there are harsh agents, it make the ones that see this
"community" as a source of gratis labor think two times. It makes me
fell that i am not been abused, and different personalties make the
world colorful. But just a personal opinion.


Wouldn't be better to talk instead of fighting.

Because the way that you (all) are responding to the harshness
looks like fighting to me, and again the fighting is obscuring the
problem that is the reason of the harshness in the first place.

Why not say, "Luc, last commit demonstrated that allwinner is clueless
in how to fix this license issues, please stop the stick waving."

And this mistakes that allwinner is doing by trying to fix this license
issues, is more of a concern (in $business$ matters) than being public
shamed about license noncompliance.


Anyway today there are good news in the allwinner git repository.

-- 
Manuel Braga

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