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----- Original Message ----
From: Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 1, 2008 1:09:32 AM
Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Hello all : )


On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 04:42:30PM -0400, Joe Takacs wrote:

> 
> I have been strongly considering going to Linux for a while, but 
> "testimonials" like this give me second thoughts.
> 
> While windoze is certainly not without problems, it does "just work" (at 
> least for me).
> 
> Which is the best Linux distro that "just works" without a lot of hassle?
> 
> Joe Takacs

So much of this depends upon your hardware.  For example, many low end
laptops use the Atheros AR5007EG card, which is not supported out of the
box. 

Also, "What works" is often in the eye of the beholder.  Yes, Fedora
often has issues.  Mint is probably an even better choice than Ubuntu as
it adds in various restricted programs by default.  For simple email,
web browsing and docs, almost any of them come close to it Just
Works(TM). 

However, I don't think any of them will do everything you want without a
little googling and such.  In fairness, you don't see Apple advertising
"We don't really worry too much about security updates," or Windows
advertising, "Our Windows genuine advantage will, at least once, cause
you to have to call us for a number even though you have legitimately
bought your copy."  That is, there's hype in Linux too. 

Wireless is often a problem.  Sound is often a problem, mostly because,
in my humble opinion, the developers didn't leave well enough alone--two
years ago, it usually just worked, now it often requires a bit of
research depending upon distro--Fedora is one of the worst on this--the
developer made some choices with which many people disagreed, but
considers various bug reports to not be bugs, but user misconfiguration. 

For example, one sometimes has to take the highly unintuitive step, to
get sound to work, of editing files in /etc/security/ console.perms. d/
because last November, they decided to tie sound in with ConsoleKit, a
program only necessary if you use Gnome--errm, a program that WAS only
necessary if you used Gnome. 

Various things won't work--such as Active X pages and the like--Linux is
still not a good choice for gaming. 

One thing you can do, to see if there's a reasonable chance of your
hardware working without problem is to run a LiveCD, and see if the
various programs you need will work.  Almost all distributions now have
a LiveCD to let you try before installing. 

As for Fedora, I use it because my job involves CentOS but that's a
little behind on various programs--it' s the price paid for having a very
very stable system. 

As each distribution involves learning its individual pain in the neck
quirks, it's just not worth it for me to go through time learning the
various quirks of say, Ubuntu--it would probably take me as much time as
it takes to make my Fedora system work, especially as I'm fairly
familiar with the way RH based systems are put together. 

However, on Fedora forums, you will frequently see new users come on and
say, Fedora doesn't work with X, Y, and Z, but they worked in Ubuntu. 

Most of the time, if the user is simply frustrated, and doesn't seem all
that interested in putting a lot of time into getting it working, the
old timers will, politely, suggest that they might be happier with
another distribution.

-- 
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