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On 01/04/2011 08:13 PM, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 04, 2011 02:34:58 pm Charles N Wyble wrote:
> 
> 
> Talk to me when you're ready to consider. I can probably do you very well in 
> a 
> datacenter; economies of scale and the fact that the owner and I have become 
> friends over the years.

Will do.

> 
>> I need to evaluate power usage, higher cost DSL I have for hosting etc.
>> I think it would still be cheaper to host at home then in a data center.
> 
> Think $30/mbps/month with 10 mbps commitment.

Sure.


>> Sure. I have 5 static, public IP addresses. v4 of course.
> 
> I had that as well when I had business grade DSL (swiped to me by Bell (later 
> AT&T).  But they stopped offering it and were pressuring me to switch to 
> switch to permanent lease dynamic instead.  I resisted because I didn't want 
> to use their router.  Not for idealistic reasons as Michael, but rather 
> didn't 
> want to pay them for it.

Hmmm. I don't need to do that. I just setup the DSL modem in bridge mode.

> 
>> impulse.net
>> (att clec) will offer native v6.
> 
> They look interesting but I've never been willing to get one of those hybrid 
> T-1/data/phone systems; 

Well that's the main offering on their site, but they do straight DSL as
well.

I Aalways felt I'd end up paying too much for the
> phone part of it.  Even now that I've decided to not become a VoIP reseller, 
> I 
> still buy at wholesale from Vitelity.  Always had my numbers simply forwarded 
> by Vitelity to my one Vonage number, but I've just ordered a Vitelity vPBX 
> running PIAF.

Nice. I've got a PIAF box deployed and have someone configuring it for
me. I hope to have it fully operational in production by end of January.
Part of data ownership. :)

> 
>> One can always do v6 via an he tunnel.
> But then you need one v4 IP per v6 IP. 

I think you mean one v4 IP per v6 subnet right? Or are you referring to
dual stack? Then you just use NAT64.

  We can get IPv6 in our datacenter;

Nice.

 I don't think my old switches will
> work, though.  And DirectAdmin (our hosting management platform) still 
> requires one v4 IP per box for management.

You can always maintain a 10.x network. Plus we will be dual stacked for
some time, so having a v4 address is still needed.

> 
> We've got no AS number ourselves; always partnered with others for IP 
> allocations and management. Sure it's easy enough to pretend to need 512 IP#s 
> and getting them myself, but it's wasteful.

Right.

> 
>> I'm in the process of getting a small swip block from a hoster here in
>> LA.  So I'll soon be joining the real internet. :)
> 
> We have a commitment for swiping to us, but the DC never followed through on 
> it; remind me to yell at him <smile>.  We do our own rDNS.

:)

I'm getting the space today. Very exciting stuff.



- -- 
Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com)
Systems craftsman for the stars
http://www.knownelement.com
Mobile: 626 539 4344
Office: 310 929 8793
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