On 12:44 AM 2/21/01, J C Lawrence wrote:
 >On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:10:05 -0800
 >SRE  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 >> At 09:24 PM 2/20/01, J C Lawrence wrote:
 >>> Yet, he is sabotauging the very community basis that found the
 >>> list and its value without also providing himself as a target for
 >>> moderation or removal.
 >
 >> If he can ruin the list without breaking any rules, you need to
 >> announce NEW RULES!
 >
 >The problem is that what he is doing is entirely attitudinal.  His
 >posts are ontopic.  They are not inherently noisy.  They simply
 >convey an attidude which is dismissive, belittling, caustic, etc.

I would try two things here.

One is to enlist the help of other respected regulars and ask them to make 
posts that are not dismissive, belittling, caustic, etc.  Try to sweeten up 
the list by having other people post nicely.

The other approach is to privately email this guy and say "I've been asked 
by several new subscribers if this list is always this unwelcoming.  I have 
to say, I've seen several subscribers get unfriendly recently, using terms 
that are dismissive, belittling, caustic, etc.  I'm privately emailing some 
of our most respected long standing subscribers (this includes you), and 
asking for their help and in making this list a more friendly place by 
setting an example of friendliness that others can follow.  Your help and 
cooperation is greatly appreciated."

There are two parts to this.  One is "don't make him feel singled 
out".  The other is to acknowledge his long standing on the list and his 
status as a respected regular, and tell him he can "help" by being one of 
the people you have come to, asking him to lead the way.  This appeals to 
his ego, his need to be important.

Good Luck!

jc


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