Well then don't believe them. Or have a healthy dose of doubt. Look at
other aspects of the industry, not just through MM glasses and see where
trends are going. I've heard MM say lines like that before. 

Why did Spectra die? A product they(MM/Allaire) marketed to "enterprise"
clients. Well to get it going you needed to spend around $12k in
software to get going. Not counting hardware. 

I'm not saying it(Flex) is not a good product, I'm not even saying that
there will not be some "enterprise" market players that will play in
that game. Companies simply don't throw $$$ around like what they did in
1999, and what MM says now sounds much like what they said back then
about a product that is now extinct.

S



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Clint Tredway
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:16 AM
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Subject: Re: Out on Flex and that's depressingly final!

I will not name names, but I have been told this by MM people and
others close to MM... so yes, I do believe what i have said.


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:59:40 -0600, Black, Stephen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "The reason for the price tag is who the target audience of Flex is."
> Tell me you really don't believe that.  Why is BEA shaking in their
> boots b/c of JBoss?
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Clint Tredway
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Out on Flex and that's depressingly final!
> 
> The reason for the price tag is who the target audience of Flex is.
> The Enterprise Market. That market typically will not bat an eye at
> 12K for server software.
> 
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:49:44 -0600, Ken Ferguson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, I'm very unhappy, but I think I'm finally finished with all of
> my
> > research on what direction I'll be taking as I really start to
> concentrate
> > on RIA development. It has, by no means, been a fair and unbiased
> study.
> > I've tried and tried to justify going with Flex, but despite my best
> > efforts, in the end I have failed to do it. I'll be using the Laszlo
> > Presentation Server and it is almost entirely due to cost. $12K is
> > absolutely ridiculous - absolutely and completely. I'm upset with
> Macromedia
> > about the whole issue. This is a relatively new area, into which I
> believe
> > they should be doing all they can to drag developers and businesses.
I
> think
> > they're going about it all wrong. At half of the price, I'd still be
> on the
> > bubble to justify it, but I'd probably be able to do it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now that I've gotten that out of the way, who has some good Laszlo
> > experience to share? Any of you guys using it? Anybody had any
> troubles or
> > had to overcome any serious obstacles? Has anyone had any really
> > ground-breaking success using it with CF? I'm about to break down
the
> sample
> > Dashboard application and build it all out for my own use. Has
anyone
> else
> > gone at that one yet?
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd appreciate any information or advice anybody has to offer and
I'm
> also
> > open to hearing any of you Flex guys tell me why I'm wrong!
> >
> >
> >
> > --Ferg
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