I am totally with you. MM knows Lazlo is out there and they still set the price at 3 times what I feel is justified.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: Out on Flex and that's depressingly final!



I did read that and several others and I came to the conclusion that I would actually rather use Flex for any number of reasons. However, those reasons just don't add up to $12K and even if they did -- I can't buy it. My company (not talking about my day job, mind you) is a small company hoping to be big some day. I'd love to be all MM -- CF, Flex, the works, but I can't. I'm just happy that Laszlo is out there so I'm not entirely left out!!! My whole point is that while I'm sure it will work just fine, I'm upset at MM that I can't use Flex.

Also, I'm sure MM did their homework and knows a hell of a lot more
about it than I do, but it seems like you could sell Flex for much
cheaper and still make an absolute killing. Let's say the price was $4K.
Imagine how many companies that can't (or just won't) buy it at $12K,
could/would at $4K and you'd still be able to sell it to all of those
companies that would have bought it at $12K. Obviously, there's some
level below which this model falls apart and you begin to lose money in
comparison. It seems to me though, in my most humble of opinion, that
the price is just too high for what they're selling.

I think I'm just a little bitter about it is all.

--Ferg


-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Woodward Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Out on Flex and that's depressingly final!

I wouldn't say you're making a *wrong* choice with Laszlo by any
means.  It's a great product and if you looked at both very carefully
and didn't see the advantage with Flex as compared to the price tag,
then I'm sure you'll do very cool stuff with Laszlo.  The guys at
iteration::two compared Flex to Laszlo on their blog; do a google and
you may find some insights on the issue.


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:56:12 -0600, Clint Tredway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The reason for the price tag is who the target audience of Flex is.
The Enterprise Market. That market typically will not bat an eye at
12K for server software.

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:49:44 -0600, Ken Ferguson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Well, I'm very unhappy, but I think I'm finally finished with all of
my
> research on what direction I'll be taking as I really start to
concentrate
> on RIA development. It has, by no means, been a fair and unbiased
study.
> I've tried and tried to justify going with Flex, but despite my best
> efforts, in the end I have failed to do it. I'll be using the Laszlo
> Presentation Server and it is almost entirely due to cost. $12K is
> absolutely ridiculous - absolutely and completely. I'm upset with
Macromedia
> about the whole issue. This is a relatively new area, into which I
believe
> they should be doing all they can to drag developers and businesses.
I think
> they're going about it all wrong. At half of the price, I'd still be
on the
> bubble to justify it, but I'd probably be able to do it.
>
>
>
> Now that I've gotten that out of the way, who has some good Laszlo
> experience to share? Any of you guys using it? Anybody had any
troubles or
> had to overcome any serious obstacles? Has anyone had any really
> ground-breaking success using it with CF? I'm about to break down
the sample
> Dashboard application and build it all out for my own use. Has
anyone else
> gone at that one yet?
>
>
>
> I'd appreciate any information or advice anybody has to offer and
I'm also
> open to hearing any of you Flex guys tell me why I'm wrong!
>
>
>
> --Ferg

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