At 07:03 AM 1/5/99 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 05, 1999 at 09:41:14AM -0500, Dan Steinberg wrote:
>>
>[...]
>> > Fine.
>> > Do you have a business case for it? Do you really think that "amateur
>sports
>> > teams", for instance, have been so influential in the history of DNS
>wars as
>> > Trademarks? If yes, join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list and propose it.
>> > You may have consensus on it ;>)
>> >
>> Roberto,
>>
>> Karl, myself, Mikki, Carl Oppedahl and many others have been making a
>> 'business case' for this for several years now.
>
>Excluding TM interests from representation does nothing to further
>that business case. In fact, it probably weakens it: TM interests
>are very powerful politically, and are simply "routing around" you --
>in the network where it matters. I believe that the histrionic
>exclusionary antics of DNRC, Milton Mueller, and others, are in the
>long run, probably doing more harm than good to non-trademark
>interests.
More infalmmatory tactics and disengenious language from a well known
source of such, namely yourself. They certainly have a history of routing
around their problems (WIPO). One of the key things they try to route
around is the US Constitution, especially the First Amendment (Free speech,
remember?). What about that Congressional Bill they introduced last year to
try an circumvent all Internet consensus, and stomp all over human rights
in the process? Yes, they have political clout. This is exactly why I don't
want that camel in my tent. It's like making friends with a mako shark,
don't be surprised when you pull back a stub. Don't be surprised when a
snake bites you either, it is the nature of the beast.
I am not speaking theory here, I am talking about actual, documented,
track-record. Show me a case where WIPO *hasn't* eaten their partners. I
don't see any. Even if there were, the fact that they do it at all should
cause a smidgen of concern.
The trademark lobby has a long track-record of egregious bills and freedom
restricting activity, as well as double-speak, double-dealing, and
back-stabbing. They will get what they can via "normal" channels, with the
appearance of compromise, then slam-dunk you with a legislative action to
get what they originally demanded and stick you with the results through
external force. AFAIC, they are the single largest force, against human
rights, on the planet.
If you are wondering about my agenda and vehemence, know that I always have
been a vocal proponent for freedom and civil liberties, that greatly
trancend the Internet, business, and profits. This is a higher calling that
you seem to have missed.
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