True, but name-calling doesn't lend credibility.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Johnny Thompson Sent: Sun 11/5/2006 10:12 PM To: 'Dallas/Fort Worth ColdFusion User Group Mailing List' Subject: RE: [DFW CFUG] Why Cold Fusion vs Java? vs PHP? vs .ASP? etc. including me too, right? I'm just callin' it like I see it. _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Knipp Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:37 PM To: Dallas/Fort Worth ColdFusion User Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [DFW CFUG] Why Cold Fusion vs Java? vs PHP? vs .ASP? etc. Hey come on, relax. Lets not turn this into a flame war. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. On 11/5/06, Johnny Thompson < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For almost 11 long years, we've been watching the VBScript/ActiveX/ASP/COM/DCOM/J++/VB/VC++/ASP.NET/VB.NET/C# disciples tell us our little scripting language isn't for Big Boys. Hmm.... Stop drinking the friggin' Kool-Aid, GatesLover.... Why do you think M$FT tried to acquire Allaire? Because it was solid technology THEN and it's still great today. All of the things M$FT says their languages can do in web application development, CF has been doing for years......and then some. Kinda like that IE7 "tabbed windows" feature. Wow....i've enjoyed that for the last 2 years....with firefox. Face it, M$FT is the king of imitation, which is always quite flattering (and profitable), but NEVER innovative. And what's this FREE crap? The last time I checked, the operating system and database licenses for those 50 servers you mentioned would have drowned the price of CF... I thought this was the DFW CFUG Mailing List....go away, Redmond Homer. ...and for the record, I love my XP Pro Desktop OS....something M$FT is pretty good at. Leave the server operating systems to the real big boys...UNIX. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Jordan Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:15 PM To: Dallas/Fort Worth ColdFusion User Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [DFW CFUG] Why Cold Fusion vs Java? vs PHP? vs .ASP? etc. > Part of the problem is that the price of the CF server is associated with perceived value. If they give it away for free or a low price, it may be deemed a product of poor quality for the enterprise. If they price it as an enterprise-level product, it's going to scare away people who could potentially use it for smaller-scale projects. > > Hmm... sort of a catch twenty-two, huh? > .NET is a fully blown OO language.. its big boy stuff compared to a > kinda (borderline) OO CF. Nothing about .NET should be associated with > idiots. You need to understand OO to effectively use it. You can shoot > yourself in the foot with it, but since the langauge is precompiled, > you're warned syntax issues by an increbibly useful and feature rich > Visual Studio IDE. Not to mention the fact that you can easily pop out > a variety of application types (like windows aps) after you get the > hang of it. > > I don't like thinking about the code that I write as "little boy" stuff. But, I'm interested in what you said about the language being precompiled. Are .Net applications (web applications) precompiled? I know that desktop applications, like Paint.Net (which I love, btw), are compiled programs... but what about web applications written using the .Net framework -- presumably written in something like C#, right? Chris _______________________________________________ Reply to DFWCFUG: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/listinfo/list List Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/> http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40dfwcfug.org/ DFWCFUG Sponsors: www.HostMySite.com <http://www.teksystems.com/> www.teksystems.com/ _______________________________________________ Reply to DFWCFUG: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: <http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/listinfo/list> http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/listinfo/list List Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40dfwcfug.org/> http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40dfwcfug.org/ DFWCFUG Sponsors: www.HostMySite.com www.teksystems.com/ _______________________________________________ Reply to DFWCFUG: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/listinfo/list List Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40dfwcfug.org/ DFWCFUG Sponsors: www.HostMySite.com www.teksystems.com/
