(For what it's worth)
On 11/5/06, Johnny Thompson
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New topic anyone? This stuff never ends....I just didn't want the 'big boy'
comment to go unchecked.
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True, but name-calling doesn't lend credibility.
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including me too, right?
I'm just callin' it like I see it.
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Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [DFW CFUG] Why Cold Fusion vs Java? vs PHP? vs .ASP? etc.
Hey come on, relax. Lets not turn this into a flame war. Everybody is
entitled to their opinion.
On 11/5/06, Johnny Thompson < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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For almost 11 long years, we've been watching the
_vbscript_/ActiveX/ASP/COM/DCOM/J++/VB/VC++/ASP.NET/VB.NET/C# disciples tell
us our little scripting language isn't for Big Boys.
Hmm....
Stop drinking the friggin' Kool-Aid, GatesLover....
Why do you think M$FT tried to acquire Allaire? Because it was solid
technology THEN and it's still great today. All of the things M$FT says
their languages can do in web application development, CF has been doing for
years......and then some.
Kinda like that IE7 "tabbed windows" feature. Wow....i've enjoyed that for
the last 2 years....with firefox.
Face it, M$FT is the king of imitation, which is always quite flattering
(and profitable), but NEVER innovative.
And what's this FREE crap? The last time I checked, the operating system
and database licenses for those 50 servers you mentioned would have drowned
the price of CF...
I thought this was the DFW CFUG Mailing List....go away, Redmond Homer.
...and for the record, I love my XP Pro Desktop OS....something M$FT is
pretty good at.
Leave the server operating systems to the real big boys...UNIX.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Christopher
Jordan
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:15 PM
To: Dallas/Fort Worth ColdFusion User Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: [DFW CFUG] Why Cold Fusion vs Java? vs PHP? vs .ASP? etc.
> Part of the problem is that the price of the CF server is associated with
perceived value. If they give it away for free or a low price, it may be
deemed a product of poor quality for the enterprise. If they price it as an
enterprise-level product, it's going to scare away people who could
potentially use it for smaller-scale projects.
>
>
Hmm... sort of a catch twenty-two, huh?
> .NET is a fully blown OO language.. its big boy stuff compared to a
> kinda (borderline) OO CF. Nothing about .NET should be associated with
> idiots. You need to understand OO to effectively use it. You can shoot
> yourself in the foot with it, but since the langauge is precompiled,
> you're warned syntax issues by an increbibly useful and feature rich
> Visual Studio IDE. Not to mention the fact that you can easily pop out
> a variety of application types (like windows aps) after you get the
> hang of it.
>
>
I don't like thinking about the code that I write as "little boy" stuff.
But, I'm interested in what you said about the language being precompiled.
Are .Net applications (web applications) precompiled? I know that desktop
applications, like Paint.Net (which I love, btw), are compiled programs...
but what about web applications written using the .Net framework --
presumably written in something like C#, right?
Chris
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