lol! No. I don't need to accomplish this, I was just throwing out ways that you may be able to overcome this problem, if needs be. :o) I almost never have to worry about search engines (thankfully).

Chris

Brent Helms wrote:
I'm not sure how the search engines spiders would interpret honestly.  If you are referring to putting everything between the transparent div as in "<div ...><HTML><BODY>....</BODY></HTML></div>" that comprises the whole site, then maybe, but I would not count on it because the SE may not know why its in the div, plus this would require you to somehow create HTML for every page and put it in here.  SE's are very specific to W3C standards, HTML tags, etc. I would not know the answer to this off hand, but it sounds like it may not work, unless there is a standard out there for this scenario.  I know enough about SEO to get a good infrastructure setup so your site can gain from the natural SEO that will be performed; however, I do now know how it would react in this scenario.  Leaning towards a "probably not" with what i'm hearing so far, but if you provided me an example, i could try to guestimate.

On 11/6/06, Christopher Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Brent,

I don't deal as much with SEO as you seem to, so maybe you can answer this: Why couldn't you put that information in the HTML wrapper that goes around the flash .swf file? Put it in a completely transparent div, off screen somewhere, or with it's hidden attribute set... something like that. Would that sort of thing work?

Chris

Brent Helms wrote:
Well, search engines anticipate HTML driven content.  They want to see information in H1 tags, put precendence on this information, etc etc etc (an exact science that requires full time concentration), but Flash has always screwed up SEO for the reasons behind "its in another file". 

There is a company (I forget the name), that built a content mgmt system around flash so you could build sites in flash and reap the benefits of SEO, btu they were in bed with the search engines and had I guess "the recipe and access to confidential information" just to make it work.  Long story short, SEO is the way of the new "Marketing" initiative on the web, and if technology does no accomodate, well i'm sure they'll make it eventually as this can kill the usage of a technology for websites.  Shopping carts are a prime example: you want all of your inventory available to be sniffed by the search engines.

I was just curious if Flex made this possible.

On 11/6/06, Christopher Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
I'd be willing to bet that it's not a problem. The .swf file that is the compiled flex application is wrapped in an HTML wrapper. I *think* you're search engine stuff could be included in that wrapper, and you'd be fine. Does that sound right? Sounds right to me. :o)

Chris

Brent Helms wrote:
For the ignorant, how is the "view-source" on flex applications?  I recall a nice application in the demo quite some time ago, so I would assume shopping carts are nice in Flex; however, I am curious how the information is relayed in the source.  How SEO friendly is Flex in other words.

On 11/6/06, Matt Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
On 11/6/06, Christopher Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think Flex (for now) is really
> the answer to this.

To an extent, yes--Flex is still not how every single web site/app on
the planet should be built. Like everything it has its strengths and
weaknesses. For apps in which you need to replicate desktop-like
functionality it's great. For apps that are more content-driven HTML
is a better fit.

> The only thing it's lacking is access to the client
> machine's file system.

This is one of the advantages of deploying Flex and Flash apps through
the Apollo runtime (which isn't available yet, but they talked it up
big time at MAX).

Matt
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mattwoodward.com

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