Very informative Dave, thank you! Ron Mast Truth Hardware Webmaster 507-444-4693 ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Shuck Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:51 PM To: Dallas/Fort Worth ColdFusion User Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [DFW CFUG] can someone explain please, thanks!
Ron, I was having this discussion the other day with a few developers while at cf.Objective(). It has been interesting to watch the past few years. At CFUnited 05, to me it felt like frameworks were still mostly done by the advanced guys, but probably over half of the attendees at least understood that they should probably better understand what was going on in that area. I am over simplifying a bit, but last year it felt more like everyone seemed to understand the value of them even if they didn't use them. At cf.Objective() people look at you funny if you don't use them (unless you are Simon Horwith, then people just look at you funny anyway). Of course that is a more advanced group, but it is also the group that is leading many of the tends and helping determine a lot of the "best practices" which trickle throughout the community. There are certainly a lot of cases where frameworks are not necessary, such as a small 3-4 page app. However, I always use Mach-II anyway for the most part. My reasons are: a) I like the compartmentalization that it offers. Yes, I can build that compartmentalization on my own, but why? b) Applications don't ever get smaller. Most applications that I have worked on evolve or die. It is always a much more pleasant experience to go back into an app that is well designed in a framework and add existing funcionality. c) Standardization. This has really come to light as I have worked closely with Aaron over the past couple of years on projects. When you use a framework, you don't have to guess where to look for things. You instinctively know. Whether you work by yourself, or whether you work as a team, standards make things much more efficient in my opinion. d) Flexability. I can't stress enough how the concepts of event-driven application models with filters, plugins, etc make changes easy. Things that used to take weeks for us to implement in poorly architected legacy applications can be implemented in hours. Yes of course you can create good architecture on your own, but frameworks like Mach-II make it an obvious direction to go. e) I am on Team Mach-II now. They make me say this stuff. ~Dave On 5/11/07, Ron Mast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: Hi All, What determines if an application needs to be programmed using a framework? Is it true that we are past the spaghetti code era when programming in basic coldfusion? I need to get this straight in my head, I'm confused at the moment. Thanks in advance! Ron Mast Truth Hardware Webmaster 507-444-4693 _______________________________________________ Reply to DFWCFUG: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/listinfo/list List Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40dfwcfug.org/ DFWCFUG Sponsors: www.instantspot.com/<http://www.instantspot.com/> www.teksystems.com/<http://www.teksystems.com/> -- ~Dave Shuck [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://daveshuck.instantspot.com
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