Dave,
I know that several months ago - maybe even last year - the group had
several presentations on Mach-II. I would really like to learn to use a
framework, but doing so on my own I think may be more of a challenge
than I have energy for right now. Would you (or whoever) mind doing an
intro to Mach-II session sometime?
Thanks,
Chris
Dave Shuck wrote:
Ron, I was having this discussion the other day with a few developers
while at cf.Objective(). It has been interesting to watch the past
few years. At CFUnited 05, to me it felt like frameworks were still
mostly done by the advanced guys, but probably over half of the
attendees at least understood that they should probably better
understand what was going on in that area. I am over simplifying a
bit, but last year it felt more like everyone seemed to understand the
value of them even if they didn't use them. At cf.Objective() people
look at you funny if you don't use them (unless you are Simon Horwith,
then people just look at you funny anyway). Of course that is a more
advanced group, but it is also the group that is leading many of the
tends and helping determine a lot of the "best practices" which
trickle throughout the community.
There are certainly a lot of cases where frameworks are not necessary,
such as a small 3-4 page app. However, I always use Mach-II anyway
for the most part. My reasons are:
a) I like the compartmentalization that it offers. Yes, I can build
that compartmentalization on my own, but why?
b) Applications don't ever get smaller. Most applications that I have
worked on evolve or die. It is always a much more pleasant experience
to go back into an app that is well designed in a framework and add
existing funcionality.
c) Standardization. This has really come to light as I have worked
closely with Aaron over the past couple of years on projects. When
you use a framework, you don't have to guess where to look for
things. You instinctively know. Whether you work by yourself, or
whether you work as a team, standards make things much more efficient
in my opinion.
d) Flexability. I can't stress enough how the concepts of
event-driven application models with filters, plugins, etc make
changes easy. Things that used to take weeks for us to implement in
poorly architected legacy applications can be implemented in hours.
Yes of course you can create good architecture on your own, but
frameworks like Mach-II make it an obvious direction to go.
e) I am on Team Mach-II now. They make me say this stuff.
~Dave
On 5/11/07, *Ron Mast* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:
Hi All,
What determines if an application needs to be programmed using a
framework?
Is it true that we are past the spaghetti code era when
programming in basic coldfusion?
I need to get this straight in my head, I'm confused at the moment.
Thanks in advance!
Ron Mast
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