On 2013-10-10 16:08, Giles Coochey wrote:
On 10/10/2013 13:55, Ian Bowers wrote:
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Alexandre Paradis
<alexandre.para...@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.para...@gmail.com>> wrote:
indeed, i vote to continue. Because you don't mind being
overlooked by NSA doesn't mean everybody don't care.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:33 AM, RĂ¼diger G. Biernat
<rgbier...@rgbiernat.homelinux.org
<mailto:rgbier...@rgbiernat.homelinux.org>> wrote:
This discussion about security/NSA/encryption IS important.
Please go on.
Whether or not this is an important conversation is irrelevant. This
is the wrong place to have the conversation.
I tried to turn this back into a product support discussion in the
last thread but sadly my comments were not among those cherry picked.
This discussion does not suit the purpose of this list. I see a
bunch of hard working people reacting to their product's integrity
being continuously questioned despite having all questions answered,
and a few entitled consumers who can't be bothered to figure out
technology well enough to come to their own conclusion on its
integrity. As well as a bunch of people that want this discussion
to go someplace more appropriate. The "concerned" parties are not
concerned enough to learn how to read code. So you're paranoid, just
not paranoid enough to actually learn how to answer your own questions.
Unless there is an issue someone is having making a VPN work or
getting NAT running right, this is the wrong place to hold this
discussion. If you're having an issue with this pfSense, networking
protocols, or logical opertaion of the device, great! let's talk
about it! I'm actually very good at these things, and I'd like to
spend time helping people with network or network security related
operational problems. Otherwise, please find the email addresses of
all the people who shown an interest in participating in this
discussion, and send an email out to that list of people to discuss
it among yourselves.
*BLINK!*
Incredible!!!! the way I am seeing the reaction to the initial
question, and trying to query very valid points are now leading me to
seriously reconsider the potential risk I have in continuing to use
pfsense as a security tool.
This is *exactly* the way I feel about this whole sensation that we are
witnessing here! Some reactions are truly incredible!
The about list on the mailman page states: "pfSense support and
discussion list"...
Correct!
But I guess those who waste our time by telling us we should shut up and
walk away would like to rename the list to e.g. "Happy shallow chatting
of pfSense fan boys who never dare to ask any critical question about
their beloved firewall-distro that they take to bed each night" or
something similar.
Self-censorship in a security software forum when it comes to discuss
the security level of the security software! It's absolutely crazy!!
This thread is clearly about discussing pfsense, therefore it is
on-topic, I could equally take the stance, take your technical
discussions to the dev list, however I am not the type of exclusive
close-minded minded person that you appear to be. Please stop
hijacking this thread.
FACK!!
Regards
Thinker Rix
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