Hi Paul.
On 2013-10-10 18:42, Paul Mather wrote:
Thank you for the valuable information about how to use mailing lists.
You are welcome! ;-)
I first started using mailing lists back in the mid/late 1980s, on the
JANET network (British academic network)---back when the Internet was
made up of networks like ARPA, BITNET, UUCP, and the likes and (in my
case) you needed to know the gateway machines that would let you reach
those networks and had to incorporate that routing into the recipients
e-mail address.
I love it when users try to show off with what internet dinosaurs their
are, as soon as someone tries to teach them how to do something better..
Well, I am an Internet Dinosaur, too, with quite a comparable track
record as you, so I am not all to impressed ;-)
I suspect "those people" you mention above actually know how to use a
mailing list properly. I know I do.
Well, as it seems, most readers here *may know* how it should be done,
but yet *don't do* it correctly, since it has shown that most users do
just read all incoming mail unsorted and not threaded.
While anybody has the right to do so - no one has the right to complain
afterwards about drowning in mail that does not concern him. But
awkwardly enough many users did complain. And I will not accept them
blaming me for not using their mail readers correctly.
I also know the value of good S/N ratio on technically-focused
mailing lists.
Every user will consider different things to be noise. I do not consider
this thread to be noise - at all. You do. Just read another thread that
appeals you more?
Maybe if we can establish that, we can finally wrap up this thread
as far as pfSense is concerned and get back to a pfSense-focused
mailing list.
You can switch *right at this very moment* to a discussion thread
that is of more interest for you and there you go!
Of course, you're right, and that is wise counsel
It would have been a wise sentence, if it would have stopped here ;-)
because it reminds me of one of the golden rules of mailing lists:
unwelcome threads persist only so long as people reply to them. (This
is sometimes better known by the more insulting adage: "Please don't
feed the trolls!" I'm loathe to employ that, though.) I thought I
was making a reasonable point, but it seems as far as I'm concerned,
this thread has passed the point of reasonableness.
FACK! The only difference is, that you consider me to be the troll
(maybe because I backtalk without hesitation to those who try to muzzle
and censor me?) - while I consider those to be the trolls, who do not
contribute anything of value to the discussion but plainly interfere in
this thread and bully the others to stop discussing about the topic,
because they claim that it bores them - instead of just walking away.
I'll leave it to you and your fellow concerned list members to
continue mulling it over, and, in your case, to continue teaching your
grandma to suck eggs when it comes to Netiquette. :-)
Thanks so much ;-)
As far as Netiquette is concerned, I am surprised how many of those
"computer geeks" that participate at this mailing list are clueless
about Netiquette, and the basic usage of mail readers, etc.
Take for an example how many postings are not quoting correctly, but
have "text on top - full quote below" which is a no-go in newsgroups and
mailing lists...
Cheers,
Paul.
Regards
Thinker Rix
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