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>     Anybody ever try this? Thanks,  Ken Pearce
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> Ken, there is one brand which definitely uses automotive pieces right 
> from an AC Delco catalog.
> Other than that most of the brands are really alternators, that 
> rectify the AC to DC internally, so your friends advise was quite 
> appropriate.
> Carl Hibbard

Any such machine that does use an automotive type alternator will have a 
problem of only producing significants power in pretty high winds or 
else needing to be 'furled' in only moderate winds, as such alternators 
are designed to run at high speeds and higher, not slower to higher as 
is needed for a wind generator. Increasing the current through the field 
windings of an auto alternator at slower speeds to get the higher power 
out will overheat it quickly at slow speeds.


What's more such tech is relatively heavy and inefficient compared to 
modern wind generator tech.
Auto alternators just do not make good wind generators for boats! Which 
is why you do not see them out there.

Most modern wind gennys do not use anything that is very close to a 
modern auto set up, as they use compact high output low speed units that 
have stationary multipole windings for the field and rotating perment 
magnets, so are brushless. The comutating, rectification, and switch 
mode regulation are often done internally (as in all Air Marine models) 
and the generator that is designed to be used with this circuit to 
produce correct output (some are made with built in 'electronic braking' 
that will not work correctly without the proper 'brains' to control it).

Other less sophisticated units still use a perm mag alternator designed 
for low speed start up and power production, and a regulator designed 
for that application.

So in sum it is necessary usually to use parts designed for that unit or 
units very similar to that one, to fix it.

The big advantage of the Air designs in my opinion is the ease of 
changing the various parts...half an hour will be all that is needed to 
change the 'guts' (you do not even need to remove it from the pole, I 
have found), a faster (and cheaper) way to fix than replacing board 
level components.
The downside is that you then cannot save the damaged board as nobody 
repairs them and no schematics can be had and it is too expensive to 
'easter egg', so unless the component failure is obvious and you have a 
readily available source, you are out of luck.

You can't have your cake and eat it too!

What amazes me is the number of folks  that send in their unit for 
're-build' when anybody could do it themselves in an easy afternoon and 
save  hundreds if not a thousand bucks or so!

 I am saying, hey,  its easy, don't throw it way, fix it!

My next thing is that I am going to make a powerful surge suppressor and 
put it in the wind gennys lines, maybe it will have better luck 
surviving the next lightning (I know it is just a question of time 
there). -Ken
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