RE: [Liveaboard] Face book and other computer quirks for boatersĀ Arild,
Not true. I routinely screw with my XP installs. And also my Office installs. 
Always go to second or third line help with MS. And I also install from cd/dvd. 
So that bunk of needing to go to a dealer is just that. Problem is if you got 
the software from a vendor who has an open license structure. Not from a 
Windows XP disk you bought.



N.Y. RUSSELL
Office Coffee Service
"Java Powered Service"



-----Original Message-----
From: Arild Jensen
Sent: Mon, 29 September 2008 12:19:39
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Liveaboard] Face book and other computer quirks for boaters



ahmet erkan wrote:
> BTW : Anita like me might be apprehensive about joining the "facebook"
> crowd. There was a lot of bad publicity about it's data security. Have
> you had any bad experiences? You seem to recommend it, how long have
> you been registered to "facebook" whatever it is?  I have learned not
> to say anything negative or positive about things I don't know.

REPLY
More specifically  facebook was mentioned  as being one of the websites
at which you ran a great risk  of picking up a particularly nasty malware.
My daughter  insisted on my  joining faceook  in order to see pictures
of my grand daughter.  I got  my computer ruined. This particular
malware blows right through Symantec  Norton and Windows  defenses.  A
fact  corroborated by a lot of other victims and IT professionals.
Befoer I  realized exactly  what was happening  the malware had used my
computer to  spew out spam and  that got me black listed and blocked by

my ISP.
Attempts to eradicate the malware failed.    I ended up having to get
another computer and I was off line for a couple of weeks.
fortunately my ISP  knew  that I had problems with a virus  so even
though they had to block me they  allowed me to  restore internet access
once I had another computer.
In case you wonder why an whole new computer instead of just a hard
drive;   Turns out that XP is a one shot deal.  By replacing the hard
drive  Microcsoft said that constituted a different computer
configuration and they wanted me to buy a new copy of XP.  When I phoned
then  because my software install  would not validate they  told me that
computer was not authorized  for this area and  then  by voice phone
they  told me  the computer was  not where it was registered from and
the hardware was changed.  Sure it was changed. i had upgraded a number
of things since buying it three years ago. In other words they
practically  accused me of using a stolen computer.  Once we got that
straightened out  they said I could get validated  by  buying a new copy
of  XP    USD $199.95


BTW  none of the current versions of   good Anti virus protection 
software will install on a machine  running non validated software.   I
tried!  In other words if you attempt to run  a non-validated  copy of
Microsoft   you can't load malware prtection that  is up to date on the
latest threats.  This is simply  more of Microsoft's  efforts to
eradicate boot leg copies of their product. And if you haven't got high
speed access, it takes too long to load  even if you are legit.

Unfortunately  this has some serious ramifications for boaters.  My
dealer tells me that  the latest move by Microsoft  means you can no
longer load a MS operating system from disk.  You get a boot disk and
then you have to download the OS and get it validated  on-line  while
its at the dealer.
So what happens  if you have a computer crash  while cruising someplace
with no internet access.  or just a slow dial up?   you are SOL!
It used to be  you could recover from a HD failure  and even a virus
attack  by simply wiping the drive  or if a hard failure;  replacing the
drive then reloading from disk .  Not any more.  So much for security of
computer based navigation  systems.  That is why I ended up replacing my
computer.  Its now junk!
I discovered   that  software that used to load  from disk now
encountered a problem and the install failed.  I can no longer load my

legal  but old copy of Office 2003.  Third party software  fails  to

install and reports essential components of Windows are missing.  Pre 
loading a spare HD with all the essential  programs  for use as an 
emergency back up and then  trying to load a second  HD  for actual use
on the same computer also violates the Microsoft definition of one time
use of XP.  and they won't validate the  second install.


Unless you know you navigation software can run on  an older version of
windows like Win98SE or maybe W2K   you won't be able to recover from a
crash or virus infection  on your sea going computer.
regards
Arild





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