St Augustine Fl heh Ben?  I'll be sure to let some of the local "pigs" know
how you feel.

Enjoy your freedoms.
CT

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected] [mailto:liveaboard-
>>[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Okopnik
>>Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 2:21 PM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] How many international sailors with HF get a
>>restricted radio permit.
>>
>>On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:16:23PM -0400, Ron Rogers wrote:
>>> Perhaps it was on another forum, recently, where a visitor to the EU had
>>to
>>> take a radio operator exam *which was in English*! I imagine that this
>>is
>>> for extended stays. Why tempt fate? During the Tiananmen Square riots in
>>> China, some of my fellow American tourists wore Canadian label pins,
>>etc. I
>>> did not respect that behavior.
>>
>>I'm in two minds about that sort of thing, myself. Is it cowardly
>>behavior, or is it just being extra-cautious - say, like getting a radio
>>license before cruising? I guess it depends. E.g., it's not something
>>that I would do by choice - i.e., I won't be packing any Canadian pins
>>if I ever have to visit China :) - but if it was a situation where the
>>political climate around me suddenly jelled into "let's kill all
>>Americans", I would a) kick myself repeatedly for being so completely
>>out of touch that I missed the warning signs; b) look for the shortest
>>path out of the country/to safety; and c) be as inconspicuous as
>>possible while running for that border. If that meant wearing a Canadian
>>jacket, then so be it. Since I'm not Bruce Willis, I wouldn't be able to
>>take a gun away from a Bad Guy and shoot him and a hundred of his
>>buddies (with a gun that holds six rounds), so I guess I'd have to be
>>smart instead of "bad"...
>>
>>What I _wouldn't_ do is wear that jacket *and* stick around to see the
>>festivities. The situation is either bad enough to follow emergency
>>escape procedures, or it's not. Anything in between smacks of cowardice
>>_and_ stupidity.
>>
>>> The Chinese people were genuinely friendly
>>> towards polite Americans. The detectives wearing leather jackets in
>>hotel
>>> lobbies - not so much.
>>
>>You should have asked them if they wanted to be horse food. :) It seems
>>that foreign students in China - if I recall the story as it was told to
>>me, the student in question was from the UK - used to be taught the
>>phrase "do you want to be in trouble?", and were told to use it if
>>someone was bothering them. This particular girl's accent in Chinese was
>>absolutely awful - and so was the response of the people to whom she
>>said it (confusion and shock, but it seemed to get the right result.)
>>Turns out that pronouncing those words with the wrong tone carries a
>>rather different meaning...
>>
>>> Times change and particularly in the new era of terrorism. Passports are
>>now
>>> required almost everywhere (maybe not Bermuda) and even to get back into
>>the
>>> States.
>>
>>I spoke with a US Customs agent in Hampton Roads, VA about two months
>>ago and asked him about the details of returning to the States after
>>visiting foreign waters. According to him - and his partner, who was
>>standing right there, did not contradict him - you do not need a
>>passport, and a US DL is perfectly fine.
>>
>>> Things change from one Customs officer to another to include here in
>>> the States. In Mexico, they might try to nail you on a fishing license
>>or a
>>> radio license or how your hair is parted. It helps to at least appear to
>>be
>>> poor.
>>
>>Or at least to be a "working Joe" rather than a "millionaire on
>>vacation". Provoking resentment pointlessly is a really good way to
>>_become_ horse food.
>>
>>> As one NYC police officer said to me (as my broken car muffler deafened
>>him)
>>> "You're lucky that my wife was nice to me last night."
>>
>>Ah... what a lovely illustration of the "freedom" that we are entitled
>>to in this country. Some pigs are indeed more equal than others.
>>
>>
>>Ben
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