Hm: NoSqlDatabaseManager extends AbstractDatabaseManager, so log4j-nosql
would depend on log4j-db unless we leave AbstractDatabaseManager and
friends in core.

Gary

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wish we had a better way to gauge what plugins are the most commonly
> used so we could trim it down to that in log4j-core, but alas, we can
> really only guess. With that in mind, that layout sounds like it makes
> sense, though calling it "log4j-db" is somewhat confusing. I'd prefer the
> name had some sort of indicator that it wasn't a standalone module as it
> wouldn't have any concrete plugins in it.
>
> Also, would log4j-nosql need to depend on log4j-db? Could be a nice
> opportunity for refactoring if necessary as they all follow the same
> pattern.
>
> On 4 December 2016 at 15:40, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, I have a log4j-sql module split out locally. But it seems we need
>> instead:
>>
>> - log4j-db (commons code, depends log4j-core)
>> - log4j-jdbc (JDBC only, depends on log4j-db)
>> - log4j-jpa (JPA only, depends on log4j-db)
>>
>> I would also repackage these out of .core.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Note the common code in .core.db for .core.db.jdbc and .core.db.jpa. It
>>> seems just that little bit should go in its own module or stay in core.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also: package names, it does not make sense to have JDBC and JPA code
>>>> under the .core. package anymore. I would:
>>>>
>>>> Create the new modules with code not in .core. and deprecate the
>>>> equivalent in .core.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hm... this is also an opportunity to pick more precise names:
>>>>> log4j-jdbc and log4j-jpa
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As for SQL, the JDBC one doesn't have any dependencies, so that could
>>>>>> stay in core if desired, but the JPA one does require additional Java EE
>>>>>> APIs, so that'd make sense to separate at the very least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the nosql ones, again, it would be nice to split those up so
>>>>>> that there aren't optional dependencies. That would either mean a mongo 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> couch component, or it could also mean an additional nosql-common 
>>>>>> component
>>>>>> (unless the abstract classes were put into log4j-core).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4 December 2016 at 12:44, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts on splitting out SQL and MOM (JMS) into their own modules?
>>>>>>> We already have a nosql module, having a sql one makes sense. The 
>>>>>>> overall
>>>>>>> idea is to make core lighter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
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>
>
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>



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