By that, I mean the word "nosql".

On 5 December 2016 at 11:54, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You don't need to include "nosql" in the split modules. I'd only use
> "nosql" or "sql" as common dependencies (i.e., the abstract classes).
>
> On 5 December 2016 at 11:23, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think we should create a new module just to save a single digit
>>> number of KB in core.
>>>
>>
>> So from your POV, it's all about reducing dependencies? I'm just trying
>> to understand what the landscape is here...
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Mikael here. It would be nice to include the abstract
>>>>> base classes in log4j-core if they're dependency-free, but I don't have a
>>>>> strong opinion on whether to make it its own module.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, yes, log4j-nosql should be split along with the other modules.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah, right, dependencies. So:
>>>>
>>>> log4j-db
>>>> log4j-db-nosql
>>>> log4j-db-nosql-counchdb
>>>> log4j-db-nosql-mongodb
>>>> log4j-db-jdbc
>>>> log4j-db-jpa
>>>>
>>>> If we really want to thin our core, that justifies having log4j-db and
>>>> log4j-db-nosq.
>>>>
>>>> Then we are almost at the one package = one jar level. At least in this
>>>> area. The one package = one jar would be one extreme way to deliver
>>>> log4j but the dependencies, yikes.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5 December 2016 at 03:30, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would prefer the modules to be named like this to make names less
>>>>>> clumsy:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> log4j-jdbc
>>>>>> log4j-jpa
>>>>>> log4j-jms
>>>>>> log4j-kafka
>>>>>> log4j-zeromq (better than log4j-jeromq)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems like the proposed log4j-db module would be very small and
>>>>>> not have any external dependencies? In that case I suggest we keep that
>>>>>> stuff in log4j-core to avoid creating too many modules. We should only
>>>>>> create new modules if they have external dependencies or are of
>>>>>> considerable size.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, the log4j-nosql modules should probably be split up further into
>>>>>> log4j-mongodb and log4j-couchdb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we should focus on splitting into modules now, and worry
>>>>>>> about repos later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Possible modules and names, with the idea that they all depend on
>>>>>>>> log4j-db:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> log4j-db
>>>>>>>> log4j-db-nosql
>>>>>>>> log4j-db-jdbc
>>>>>>>> log4j-db-jpa
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The naming hints that log4j-db is the parent of all log4j-db-*
>>>>>>>> modules.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can do something similar for MOM (JMS) except that JMS, ZeroMQ
>>>>>>>> and Kafka appenders do not share code but we could leave room for that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> log4j-mom (not needed ATM)
>>>>>>>> log4j-mom-jms
>>>>>>>> log4j-mom-kafka
>>>>>>>> log4j-mom-zeromq (or log4j-mom-jeromq)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hm: NoSqlDatabaseManager extends AbstractDatabaseManager, so
>>>>>>>>> log4j-nosql would depend on log4j-db unless we leave
>>>>>>>>> AbstractDatabaseManager and friends in core.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wish we had a better way to gauge what plugins are the most
>>>>>>>>>> commonly used so we could trim it down to that in log4j-core, but 
>>>>>>>>>> alas, we
>>>>>>>>>> can really only guess. With that in mind, that layout sounds like it 
>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>> sense, though calling it "log4j-db" is somewhat confusing. I'd 
>>>>>>>>>> prefer the
>>>>>>>>>> name had some sort of indicator that it wasn't a standalone module 
>>>>>>>>>> as it
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't have any concrete plugins in it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, would log4j-nosql need to depend on log4j-db? Could be a
>>>>>>>>>> nice opportunity for refactoring if necessary as they all follow the 
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> pattern.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4 December 2016 at 15:40, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I have a log4j-sql module split out locally. But it seems we
>>>>>>>>>>> need instead:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - log4j-db (commons code, depends log4j-core)
>>>>>>>>>>> - log4j-jdbc (JDBC only, depends on log4j-db)
>>>>>>>>>>> - log4j-jpa (JPA only, depends on log4j-db)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would also repackage these out of .core.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Note the common code in .core.db for .core.db.jdbc and
>>>>>>>>>>>> .core.db.jpa. It seems just that little bit should go in its own 
>>>>>>>>>>>> module or
>>>>>>>>>>>> stay in core.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: package names, it does not make sense to have JDBC and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JPA code under the .core. package anymore. I would:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Create the new modules with code not in .core. and deprecate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the equivalent in .core.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hm... this is also an opportunity to pick more precise names:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> log4j-jdbc and log4j-jpa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Matt Sicker <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for SQL, the JDBC one doesn't have any dependencies, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that could stay in core if desired, but the JPA one does 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java EE APIs, so that'd make sense to separate at the very 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the nosql ones, again, it would be nice to split
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those up so that there aren't optional dependencies. That would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mongo and couch component, or it could also mean an additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nosql-common component (unless the abstract classes were put 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> log4j-core).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 December 2016 at 12:44, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts on splitting out SQL and MOM (JMS) into their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modules? We already have a nosql module, having a sql one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes sense. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overall idea is to make core lighter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
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