I think we should focus on splitting into modules now, and worry about
repos later.



On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Possible modules and names, with the idea that they all depend on log4j-db:
>
> log4j-db
> log4j-db-nosql
> log4j-db-jdbc
> log4j-db-jpa
>
> The naming hints that log4j-db is the parent of all log4j-db-* modules.
>
> We can do something similar for MOM (JMS) except that JMS, ZeroMQ and
> Kafka appenders do not share code but we could leave room for that.
>
> log4j-mom (not needed ATM)
> log4j-mom-jms
> log4j-mom-kafka
> log4j-mom-zeromq (or log4j-mom-jeromq)
>
> Gary
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hm: NoSqlDatabaseManager extends AbstractDatabaseManager, so log4j-nosql
>> would depend on log4j-db unless we leave AbstractDatabaseManager and
>> friends in core.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I wish we had a better way to gauge what plugins are the most commonly
>>> used so we could trim it down to that in log4j-core, but alas, we can
>>> really only guess. With that in mind, that layout sounds like it makes
>>> sense, though calling it "log4j-db" is somewhat confusing. I'd prefer the
>>> name had some sort of indicator that it wasn't a standalone module as it
>>> wouldn't have any concrete plugins in it.
>>>
>>> Also, would log4j-nosql need to depend on log4j-db? Could be a nice
>>> opportunity for refactoring if necessary as they all follow the same
>>> pattern.
>>>
>>> On 4 December 2016 at 15:40, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, I have a log4j-sql module split out locally. But it seems we need
>>>> instead:
>>>>
>>>> - log4j-db (commons code, depends log4j-core)
>>>> - log4j-jdbc (JDBC only, depends on log4j-db)
>>>> - log4j-jpa (JPA only, depends on log4j-db)
>>>>
>>>> I would also repackage these out of .core.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Note the common code in .core.db for .core.db.jdbc and .core.db.jpa.
>>>>> It seems just that little bit should go in its own module or stay in core.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also: package names, it does not make sense to have JDBC and JPA code
>>>>>> under the .core. package anymore. I would:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Create the new modules with code not in .core. and deprecate the
>>>>>> equivalent in .core.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hm... this is also an opportunity to pick more precise names:
>>>>>>> log4j-jdbc and log4j-jpa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for SQL, the JDBC one doesn't have any dependencies, so that
>>>>>>>> could stay in core if desired, but the JPA one does require additional 
>>>>>>>> Java
>>>>>>>> EE APIs, so that'd make sense to separate at the very least.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for the nosql ones, again, it would be nice to split those up so
>>>>>>>> that there aren't optional dependencies. That would either mean a 
>>>>>>>> mongo and
>>>>>>>> couch component, or it could also mean an additional nosql-common 
>>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>> (unless the abstract classes were put into log4j-core).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4 December 2016 at 12:44, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thoughts on splitting out SQL and MOM (JMS) into their own
>>>>>>>>> modules? We already have a nosql module, having a sql one makes 
>>>>>>>>> sense. The
>>>>>>>>> overall idea is to make core lighter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>
>
>
> --
> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org
> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
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>
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