Possible modules and names, with the idea that they all depend on log4j-db:
log4j-db log4j-db-nosql log4j-db-jdbc log4j-db-jpa The naming hints that log4j-db is the parent of all log4j-db-* modules. We can do something similar for MOM (JMS) except that JMS, ZeroMQ and Kafka appenders do not share code but we could leave room for that. log4j-mom (not needed ATM) log4j-mom-jms log4j-mom-kafka log4j-mom-zeromq (or log4j-mom-jeromq) Gary On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hm: NoSqlDatabaseManager extends AbstractDatabaseManager, so log4j-nosql > would depend on log4j-db unless we leave AbstractDatabaseManager and > friends in core. > > Gary > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I wish we had a better way to gauge what plugins are the most commonly >> used so we could trim it down to that in log4j-core, but alas, we can >> really only guess. With that in mind, that layout sounds like it makes >> sense, though calling it "log4j-db" is somewhat confusing. I'd prefer the >> name had some sort of indicator that it wasn't a standalone module as it >> wouldn't have any concrete plugins in it. >> >> Also, would log4j-nosql need to depend on log4j-db? Could be a nice >> opportunity for refactoring if necessary as they all follow the same >> pattern. >> >> On 4 December 2016 at 15:40, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> OK, I have a log4j-sql module split out locally. But it seems we need >>> instead: >>> >>> - log4j-db (commons code, depends log4j-core) >>> - log4j-jdbc (JDBC only, depends on log4j-db) >>> - log4j-jpa (JPA only, depends on log4j-db) >>> >>> I would also repackage these out of .core. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Note the common code in .core.db for .core.db.jdbc and .core.db.jpa. It >>>> seems just that little bit should go in its own module or stay in core. >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Also: package names, it does not make sense to have JDBC and JPA code >>>>> under the .core. package anymore. I would: >>>>> >>>>> Create the new modules with code not in .core. and deprecate the >>>>> equivalent in .core. >>>>> >>>>> Gary >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hm... this is also an opportunity to pick more precise names: >>>>>> log4j-jdbc and log4j-jpa >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> As for SQL, the JDBC one doesn't have any dependencies, so that >>>>>>> could stay in core if desired, but the JPA one does require additional >>>>>>> Java >>>>>>> EE APIs, so that'd make sense to separate at the very least. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for the nosql ones, again, it would be nice to split those up so >>>>>>> that there aren't optional dependencies. 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