Also recall that our actual use of off-ML media should be limited to make sure ALL decisions happen on the ML.
Gary On Jul 25, 2017 02:19, "Mikael Ståldal" <mi...@apache.org> wrote: > I would prefer if we could chose one or the other, and not have both at > the same time. > > > On 2017-07-24 18:46, Matt Sicker wrote: > >> This link was posted on another mailing list recently in criticism of >> Slack: https://bitquabit.com/post/i-hate-slack-and-you-should-too/ >> >> On 18 July 2017 at 09:12, Chandra <chandra.tungathur...@rwth-aachen.de> >> wrote: >> >> Having used both paid and free service (of slack), I’d say the paid >>> service makes a lot of sense for corporates. >>> a public forum like this I believe a free tier would suffice — unless we >>> are looking for an option of having >10k messages for searching + >5gb of >>> storage [1]. This is just my opinion, but people think otherwise and I >>> believe some-biased opinions on Flock too[2]. >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> Chandra >>> [1] https://dev-s.slack.com/pricing >>> [2] https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-Gitter-vs-Slack >>> >>> On 18 Jul 2017, 7:29 PM +0530, Marshall Schor <m...@schor.com>, wrote: >>> >>>> what's the diff between gitter and hipchat? >>>> >>>> Google search seems to maybe be saying hipchat is better for many. >>>> >>>> We have already Hipchat available, I think. (We've added it to our >>>> >>> project, >>> >>>> Apache UIMA). >>>> >>>> -Marshall Schor >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/17/2017 10:20 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gitter is public. And Slack is a paid service (free version has a lot >>>>> >>>> of >>> >>>> limits), so it's not very feasible for public chats without someone >>>>> >>>> funding >>> >>>> it. Gitter, however, is free for all GitHub projects (and Gitlab too I >>>>> think?) and is even open source now that Gitlab owns them. >>>>> >>>>> On 17 July 2017 at 21:13, Tungathurthi, Chandra Kiran Bharadwaj < >>>>> chandra.tungathur...@rwth-aachen.de> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey actually, a slack channel would fit right in. Any specific >>>>>> >>>>> reason to >>> >>>> choose gitter over slack ? @matt >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks & regards, >>>>>> Chandra >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Gary Gregory >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 July, 07:08 >>>>>> Subject: Re: Desire for a Gitter channel? >>>>>> To: Log4J Users List >>>>>> >>>>>> So, like a private Slack? Bah, why not, as long as we make sure to >>>>>> document any and all decisions on the ML, it could be OK. Gary On >>>>>> >>>>> Mon, Jul >>> >>>> 17, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: > >>>>>> >>>>> https://gitter.im/apache/home >>> >>>> We can request a log4j Gitter channel for realtime chat. This >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> could be >>> >>>> handy for quick questions and other things that waiting on Stack >>>>>>> >>>>>> Overflow >>> >>>> or mailing list posts isn't as appropriate for. > > This would be >>>>>>> >>>>>> very >>> >>>> different from the ASF Slack as it is open to everyone. > > Also, I >>>>>> >>>>> find >>> >>>> chat rooms a bit easier to reply to while at work than > browsing >>>>>> >>>>> Stack >>> >>>> Overflow. ;) > > -- > Matt Sicker >>>>>> >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-user-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-user-h...@logging.apache.org > >