SO or Gitter being more popular for questions probably depends on the scope
of the question and the individual project. I suppose SO is probably
sufficient for now, though I should start lurking there again.

On 25 July 2017 at 13:56, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Isn't Stack Overflow more popular for that? I don't want to look in many
> places to help people. I do not think we should dilute... I have the user
> ML I read, and SO, sometimes... I am not fond of have yet a THIRD place to
> possible monitor...
>
> Gary
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm suggesting the use of Gitter as a user support channel, not for
> > discussing development. I prefer the mailing lists and jira for that
> > anyways (besides needing to record it there in the first place).
> >
> > On 25 July 2017 at 10:33, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Also recall that our actual use of off-ML media should be limited to
> make
> > > sure ALL decisions happen on the ML.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > On Jul 25, 2017 02:19, "Mikael Ståldal" <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would prefer if we could chose one or the other, and not have both
> at
> > > > the same time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2017-07-24 18:46, Matt Sicker wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> This link was posted on another mailing list recently in criticism
> of
> > > >> Slack: https://bitquabit.com/post/i-hate-slack-and-you-should-too/
> > > >>
> > > >> On 18 July 2017 at 09:12, Chandra <chandra.tungathurthi@rwth-
> > aachen.de>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Having used both paid and free service (of slack), I’d say the paid
> > > >>> service makes a lot of sense for corporates.
> > > >>> a public forum like this I believe a free tier would suffice —
> unless
> > > we
> > > >>> are looking for an option of having >10k messages for searching +
> > >5gb
> > > of
> > > >>> storage [1]. This is just my opinion, but people think otherwise
> and
> > I
> > > >>> believe some-biased opinions on Flock too[2].
> > > >>>
> > > >>> thanks,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Chandra
> > > >>> [1] https://dev-s.slack.com/pricing
> > > >>> [2] https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-
> > > Gitter-vs-Slack
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 18 Jul 2017, 7:29 PM +0530, Marshall Schor <m...@schor.com>,
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> what's the diff between gitter and hipchat?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Google search seems to maybe be saying hipchat is better for many.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> We have already Hipchat available, I think. (We've added it to our
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> project,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Apache UIMA).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -Marshall Schor
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 7/17/2017 10:20 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Gitter is public. And Slack is a paid service (free version has a
> > lot
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> of
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> limits), so it's not very feasible for public chats without
> someone
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> funding
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> it. Gitter, however, is free for all GitHub projects (and Gitlab
> > too I
> > > >>>>> think?) and is even open source now that Gitlab owns them.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On 17 July 2017 at 21:13, Tungathurthi, Chandra Kiran Bharadwaj <
> > > >>>>> chandra.tungathur...@rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hey actually, a slack channel would fit right in. Any specific
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> reason to
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> choose gitter over slack ? @matt
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> thanks & regards,
> > > >>>>>> Chandra
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> From: Gary Gregory
> > > >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 July, 07:08
> > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Desire for a Gitter channel?
> > > >>>>>> To: Log4J Users List
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> So, like a private Slack? Bah, why not, as long as we make sure
> to
> > > >>>>>> document any and all decisions on the ML, it could be OK. Gary
> On
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> Mon, Jul
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> 17, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: >
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> https://gitter.im/apache/home
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> We can request a log4j Gitter channel for realtime chat. This
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> could be
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> handy for quick questions and other things that waiting on Stack
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Overflow
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> or mailing list posts isn't as appropriate for. > > This would be
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> very
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> different from the ASF Slack as it is open to everyone. > > Also,
> I
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> find
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> chat rooms a bit easier to reply to while at work than > browsing
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> Stack
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Overflow. ;) > > -- > Matt Sicker
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
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