SO is great as a user forum for questions. Remko has been doing an awesome job of answering questions there for quite some time. I try to also when time permits. But it is not a great place for discussions.
Ralph > On Jul 25, 2017, at 12:04 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > SO or Gitter being more popular for questions probably depends on the scope > of the question and the individual project. I suppose SO is probably > sufficient for now, though I should start lurking there again. > > On 25 July 2017 at 13:56, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Isn't Stack Overflow more popular for that? I don't want to look in many >> places to help people. I do not think we should dilute... I have the user >> ML I read, and SO, sometimes... I am not fond of have yet a THIRD place to >> possible monitor... >> >> Gary >> >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm suggesting the use of Gitter as a user support channel, not for >>> discussing development. I prefer the mailing lists and jira for that >>> anyways (besides needing to record it there in the first place). >>> >>> On 25 July 2017 at 10:33, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Also recall that our actual use of off-ML media should be limited to >> make >>>> sure ALL decisions happen on the ML. >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> On Jul 25, 2017 02:19, "Mikael Ståldal" <mi...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would prefer if we could chose one or the other, and not have both >> at >>>>> the same time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2017-07-24 18:46, Matt Sicker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This link was posted on another mailing list recently in criticism >> of >>>>>> Slack: https://bitquabit.com/post/i-hate-slack-and-you-should-too/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 July 2017 at 09:12, Chandra <chandra.tungathurthi@rwth- >>> aachen.de> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Having used both paid and free service (of slack), I’d say the paid >>>>>>> service makes a lot of sense for corporates. >>>>>>> a public forum like this I believe a free tier would suffice — >> unless >>>> we >>>>>>> are looking for an option of having >10k messages for searching + >>>> 5gb >>>> of >>>>>>> storage [1]. This is just my opinion, but people think otherwise >> and >>> I >>>>>>> believe some-biased opinions on Flock too[2]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chandra >>>>>>> [1] https://dev-s.slack.com/pricing >>>>>>> [2] https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-pros-and-cons-of- >>>> Gitter-vs-Slack >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2017, 7:29 PM +0530, Marshall Schor <m...@schor.com>, >>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what's the diff between gitter and hipchat? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Google search seems to maybe be saying hipchat is better for many. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have already Hipchat available, I think. (We've added it to our >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> project, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apache UIMA). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Marshall Schor >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7/17/2017 10:20 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gitter is public. And Slack is a paid service (free version has a >>> lot >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> limits), so it's not very feasible for public chats without >> someone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> funding >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it. Gitter, however, is free for all GitHub projects (and Gitlab >>> too I >>>>>>>>> think?) and is even open source now that Gitlab owns them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 17 July 2017 at 21:13, Tungathurthi, Chandra Kiran Bharadwaj < >>>>>>>>> chandra.tungathur...@rwth-aachen.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey actually, a slack channel would fit right in. Any specific >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> reason to >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> choose gitter over slack ? @matt >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> thanks & regards, >>>>>>>>>> Chandra >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 July, 07:08 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Desire for a Gitter channel? >>>>>>>>>> To: Log4J Users List >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, like a private Slack? Bah, why not, as long as we make sure >> to >>>>>>>>>> document any and all decisions on the ML, it could be OK. Gary >> On >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mon, Jul >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 17, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://gitter.im/apache/home >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We can request a log4j Gitter channel for realtime chat. This >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> could be >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> handy for quick questions and other things that waiting on Stack >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Overflow >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or mailing list posts isn't as appropriate for. > > This would be >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> different from the ASF Slack as it is open to everyone. > > Also, >> I >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> chat rooms a bit easier to reply to while at work than > browsing >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stack >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Overflow. ;) > > -- > Matt Sicker >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> --------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-user-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-user-h...@logging.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>> >> > > > > -- > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-user-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-user-h...@logging.apache.org
