Isn't Stack Overflow more popular for that? I don't want to look in many places to help people. I do not think we should dilute... I have the user ML I read, and SO, sometimes... I am not fond of have yet a THIRD place to possible monitor...
Gary On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm suggesting the use of Gitter as a user support channel, not for > discussing development. I prefer the mailing lists and jira for that > anyways (besides needing to record it there in the first place). > > On 25 July 2017 at 10:33, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Also recall that our actual use of off-ML media should be limited to make > > sure ALL decisions happen on the ML. > > > > Gary > > > > On Jul 25, 2017 02:19, "Mikael Ståldal" <mi...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > I would prefer if we could chose one or the other, and not have both at > > > the same time. > > > > > > > > > On 2017-07-24 18:46, Matt Sicker wrote: > > > > > >> This link was posted on another mailing list recently in criticism of > > >> Slack: https://bitquabit.com/post/i-hate-slack-and-you-should-too/ > > >> > > >> On 18 July 2017 at 09:12, Chandra <chandra.tungathurthi@rwth- > aachen.de> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> Having used both paid and free service (of slack), I’d say the paid > > >>> service makes a lot of sense for corporates. > > >>> a public forum like this I believe a free tier would suffice — unless > > we > > >>> are looking for an option of having >10k messages for searching + > >5gb > > of > > >>> storage [1]. This is just my opinion, but people think otherwise and > I > > >>> believe some-biased opinions on Flock too[2]. > > >>> > > >>> thanks, > > >>> > > >>> Chandra > > >>> [1] https://dev-s.slack.com/pricing > > >>> [2] https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-pros-and-cons-of- > > Gitter-vs-Slack > > >>> > > >>> On 18 Jul 2017, 7:29 PM +0530, Marshall Schor <m...@schor.com>, > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> what's the diff between gitter and hipchat? > > >>>> > > >>>> Google search seems to maybe be saying hipchat is better for many. > > >>>> > > >>>> We have already Hipchat available, I think. (We've added it to our > > >>>> > > >>> project, > > >>> > > >>>> Apache UIMA). > > >>>> > > >>>> -Marshall Schor > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 7/17/2017 10:20 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Gitter is public. And Slack is a paid service (free version has a > lot > > >>>>> > > >>>> of > > >>> > > >>>> limits), so it's not very feasible for public chats without someone > > >>>>> > > >>>> funding > > >>> > > >>>> it. Gitter, however, is free for all GitHub projects (and Gitlab > too I > > >>>>> think?) and is even open source now that Gitlab owns them. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 17 July 2017 at 21:13, Tungathurthi, Chandra Kiran Bharadwaj < > > >>>>> chandra.tungathur...@rwth-aachen.de> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hey actually, a slack channel would fit right in. Any specific > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> reason to > > >>> > > >>>> choose gitter over slack ? @matt > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> thanks & regards, > > >>>>>> Chandra > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> From: Gary Gregory > > >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 July, 07:08 > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Desire for a Gitter channel? > > >>>>>> To: Log4J Users List > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> So, like a private Slack? Bah, why not, as long as we make sure to > > >>>>>> document any and all decisions on the ML, it could be OK. Gary On > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> Mon, Jul > > >>> > > >>>> 17, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> https://gitter.im/apache/home > > >>> > > >>>> We can request a log4j Gitter channel for realtime chat. This > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> could be > > >>> > > >>>> handy for quick questions and other things that waiting on Stack > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> Overflow > > >>> > > >>>> or mailing list posts isn't as appropriate for. > > This would be > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> very > > >>> > > >>>> different from the ASF Slack as it is open to everyone. > > Also, I > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> find > > >>> > > >>>> chat rooms a bit easier to reply to while at work than > browsing > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> Stack > > >>> > > >>>> Overflow. ;) > > -- > Matt Sicker > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-user-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-user-h...@logging.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >
