Hi Bryan,
In fact, the _natural_ progression of client replacement is then Linux,
possibly other solutions. Which means you should be building an
enterprise auth/dir/name system that is _not_ "Windows client-only
cookbook."
While you want to certify your ideal LPICP gurus for the ideal
enterprise network all Linux everytime using the best technology, the
market asks for professionals at many intermediate levels, because they
are enough for their needs or because they are all then can afford to
pay. LPI has many levels to recognize that. Do you think LCPIC-3 should
be the ultimate level?
And devaluating scenarios where samba plays a key role, or where Windows
ADS is still the central authorization store, won't help LPI. Both
represent real needs that LPIC-3 have to target, and this *does not*
excludes other scenarios which look nicer from a technological or open
source zealot point of view, because there's also a need for them.
We are not here to certify people who build whatever we think is the
ideal network server configuration. We are here to certify people who
can meet real customer demands. Even when the customer choices may not
be the best ones.
Being very pragmatic:
1. Will Samba by itself be the enterprise backbone? No! So the
LPIC-3-Samba certification should not certify the ultimate enterprise
Linux architects.
2. Which tecnology would you most probably use for the central network
user and object store? Ldap! So the LDAP exam has to cover all those.
3. Would you expect that all samba admins be ldap experts? No! So you
should not require them to have strong ldap skills to become LPICP-3.
4. Are there common skills required from both LCICP-3-Samba and
LPICP-3-LDAP, and possibly other LPIC-3-tracks? Yes, so there should be
a core exam covering those common skills only, and not everything
related to auth and naming.
Whats wrong in having a samba expert which is not so good in LDAP and
other technologies? Can't he have the help of another pro who does have
good knowledge in LDAP? How many people out there can master everything
you need for a true enterprise setup? Won't big networks require many
pros with different skill sets? Why should LPIC-3 be an all-or-nothing
certification?
And let's go beyond that. Let's say we have 100% Linux servers and 100%
Windows client. What good is a Samba test that only tests for local
UNIX/Linux authentication?
You are the only one that understood that way.
In the end all arguments from me and from you have been stated in this
thread more than one. We are going on without adding anything new and
without coming closer to a consensus, I am tired, I give up.
[]s, Fernando Lozano
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