Hi Bryan,

>   "Why get Linux certified if you just know how to connect Windows
>    clients and nothing else?  Our native Windows server solution
>    supports Windows clients better!"

The purpose of having Samba is connecting Windows clients to a non-Windows 
server. And that's the
reason many companies are deploying Linux and Samba. So a LPIC-3-Samba 
certification is about
building a robust infrastructure for serving Windows clients from Linux 
servers, nothing more. This
can't be done without server-side (Linux) AND client-side (Windows) skills, so 
both have to be
tested.

I can't see how this devaluates the LPIC-3, and why noone would hire such a 
professional. Of course,
if they want Windows servers they won't want LPICP's. But if they want Linux 
servers they'll need
LPICP-3-Samba.

Having LPIC-3-Samba does not precludes you from having LPIC-3-LDAP and 
LPIC-3-whatever. Say you have
dozen file servers, all nicely integrated on a ldap-based infrastructure. 
You'll need many more
samba experts to keep this network functioning than ldap experts to manage the 
central
infrastruture. And you'll have lots of troubleshooting and capacity planning 
that are specific for
samba, not touching anything related do OpenLDAP or Fedora Directory (former 
Netscape Directory).
The other way is also true, you'll have lots of work related to the directory 
servers that are not
affected by samba. So you have positions for both kinds of experts, and you 
would also like to have
someone who masters both.

That said, I think it will be bad if we launch LPIC-3 with only LDAP and Samba 
exams. Taking an exam
that does not grants certification has no value for professionals and 
employees. I don't see a
strong need for professional with both expertises, but this may be my local 
environment only
(Brazil).

I know LPI has few resources to develop and deploy many tests, but shouldn't we 
launch at least
three LPIC-3 exams instead of only two, so candidates can effectively choose 
their track on the
LPIC-3 program?


> > In
> > https://group.lpi.org/cgi-bin/publicwiki/view/Examdev/LPIC-3FutureExams
> > you'll see that XEN is already proposed by Ralph Dehner.
> > Well, as far as I'm concerned, I'd say yes but I'm not LPI :-D Let's
> > hear what Matt has to say, too!
> 
> Again, I recommended we look at an "Availability and Redundancy" exam.
> We can cover a lot of concepts.

These are two different beasts. A&R does not implies virtualization, and 
virtualization is not only
about A&R. You won't be able to fold and market everything under general 
categories. because
employees look for specifc (product-based) skills. And sometimes the 
product-specific skills are so
big they justify an exam and certification per se.


[]s, Fernando Lozano

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