"Lisiane Sztoltz Teixeira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, we can defined the proper method to measure points. It's a matter of > discussion of ideas :) > > I think the advantage here is that they're just passing the responsability > for credential updating to the professional, so PMI doesn't care about > creating or updating the exame _just_ to re-certification. It's PMP > (professional) responsability to watch lectures, write a book or whatever > were defined by PMI to gain points.
Correct. I know that there was talk about doing 'refresher' exams for people to recertify with but that would be as expensive and time consuming as doing a 'real' exam... ...because it is a real exam :) Also, I'm not talking about ridding ourselves of the current recert policy. If people are more content to rewrite an exam, I'm sure that LPI won't mind. Regards, --matt > > Of course, just an idea :) > > Lisiane > > On 5/2/07, Marcus Magalhaes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dear Lisiane, > > > > There's a somewhat difficult problem that needs to be addressed, in order > > to make the idea work: how to measure "points" properly? > > > > PMP method is flawed. Under current specs, watching two lectures give > > you exactly the same number of "points" as if you wrote a book in > > Project Management. > > > > Exams are far simpler. I still believe that a smaller exam carrying a > > lower price will do the job. Not that I'll be happy being forced to take > > an exam just to _keep_ my current status, but this is a sistematically > > simple solution. > > > > On 5/2/07, Lisiane Sztoltz Teixeira < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi guys: > > > > > > I think recertification is not the best way, just because I think won't > > > aggregate nothing to the certificate professional. > > > > > > One idea: construct a partners network for the professionals so they > > ahve to > > > achieve a number of "points" in a certain period. For example: PMP > > (Project > > > Management Professional) doesn't demand the re-certification - instead > > of > > > this, the professional has to accomplished 60 "points" during 3 years, > > that > > > can be accomplished through formal training, volunteering work, giving > > > classes (teachers), mentoring and many other ways. I dont know, but > > seems > > > that fits well here :) > > > > > > I hope that I explained well! > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > Lisiane > > > > > > > > > On 5/2/07, Moyo Emmanuel < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think recertifying is a bit too much, but if LPI could come up with > > > > bridging courses for those that are certified and still want to keep > > up to > > > > date. This shows that there is continuity in the certification, > > because > > > the > > > > fundamentals of linux will still be the same with additions of course. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On > > > > Behalf Of Alexandre de Abreu > > > > Sent: 01 May 2007 12:28 AM > > > > To: This is the lpi-examdev mailing list. > > > > Subject: Re: [lpi-examdev] LPI:TNG The Recertification Policy on > > LPIC-3 > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I believe most of us(cert takers) will not be interested in > > > > re-certification, this is my opinion. > > > > > > > > When an employer asks if you are certified, you only have to show them > > > > a piece of paper or a link to the cert website, in this case LPI(is > > > > this working now?). I've been participating on some selection > > > > processes, none of them required any documents to prove I am > > > > certified. But I can imagine how embarrassing can be a situation when > > > > someone lies about that. > > > > > > > > I know that this can lead to another discussion: cert takers are not > > > > interested only in better jobs, but in knowledge, challenges, other? > > > > > > > > I think the certification proves you knew the topics at least in a > > > > certain period of time(when you did the exam) and you may still > > > > holding the knowledge, depending on your current interests, career, > > > > etc. This may not be the perfect thinking for a company that wants > > > > people getting certified paying for it, but I believe the majority of > > > > takers will not agree with re-certifying. > > > > > > > > Any facts/numbers about IT professionals that are re-certified? > > > > > > > > Alexandre > > > > GCUX, RHCE, LPIC-2 > > > > > > > > On 30 Apr 2007 17:21:04 -0400, G. Matthew Rice < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Currently the recertification policy requires passing a higher level > > > > > certification or re-passing your current certification. > > > > > > > > > > With LPIC-3 being the pinnacle for this certification programme, > > > > > I'm suggesting that a "professional" recertification policy should > > be > > > > > consider as an alternative option to retaking of the exams. NOTE: > > > > Candidates > > > > > would still have the option of just retaking the exams. > > > > > > > > > > This professional recertification policy would be similar to the > > > policies > > > > > employed by other neutral (non-vendor controlled) licensing and > > > > certification > > > > > bodies such as professional engineering groups, the (ISC)2 (creators > > of > > > > the > > > > > CISSP certification programme) and the PMI (Project Management > > Institute > > > > and > > > > > creators of the PMP certification programme). > > > > > > > > > > Typically, these programmes look at professional experience, > > continuing > > > > > education credits and community participation (writing, > > participation in > > > > > applicable mailing lists, mentoring, etc) as a basis for renewing > > the > > > > > candidates certification. In the case of the CISSP and PMP > > > > certifications, > > > > > this is done on a 3 year cycle and has a cost of XXX ($125/renewal, > > I > > > > think). > > > > > > > > > > Any opinions on this concept? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > -- > > > > > g. matthew rice < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> starnix care, toronto, > > ontario, > > > ca > > > > > phone: 647.722.5301 x242 > > > gpg id: EF9AAD20 > > > > > http://www.starnix.com professional linux services & > > > products > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > lpi-examdev mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Alexandre de Abreu > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > lpi-examdev mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > lpi-examdev mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Lisiane Sztoltz Teixeira > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.sztoltzteixeira.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lpi-examdev mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lpi-examdev mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > > > > > > -- > Lisiane Sztoltz Teixeira > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.sztoltzteixeira.com > _______________________________________________ > lpi-examdev mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev -- g. matthew rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> starnix care, toronto, ontario, ca phone: 647.722.5301 x242 gpg id: EF9AAD20 http://www.starnix.com professional linux services & products _______________________________________________ lpi-examdev mailing list [email protected] http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
