hmmm,
seems to be a bit tricky, why don't you start the lpd in a debug mode (lpd
-d2) and look what's happening. Using appletalk is really pain !!!
regards
~christoph
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, David L. R. Houston wrote:
> I got a considerable number of replies to this posting. Alas, nothing,
> but nothing, has helped.
>
> Short and sweet question: has anyone gotten LPRng to function for a
> Macintosh client (running OS9 or OSX) that sets up its printers with the
> Desktop Printer Utility, LPR Printing using IP? (i.e. NOT using Appletalk)
>
> Here is what I know:
>
> - Netatalk is now installed on the same test machine.
>
> - However, a simple test on the other (primary) server reveals that in
> fact netatalk is *not* required to get LPR printing using IP to work.
> Netatalk *would* be needed _if_ printer selection and processing happened
> over _Appletalk_. Since one of my chief goals is to do away with this
> hideous protocol, I need to be sure I can print without it.
>
> - Setting up a printer on either an OSX or OS9 Mac client involves use of
> the Desktop Printer Utility, LPR type printing, and then entry of the
> hostname, and then the named print queue. No combination of hostname
> (which for testing is gecko.uvm.edu) or named printers found in the
> /usr/local/etc/printcap gives any output.
>
> - All tests yield the identical result: (from /usr/local/bin/lpq -Pall)
> Printer: lp@gecko (holdall)
> Queue: no printable jobs in queue
> Status: lp: Check_for_missing files: missing data file
> 'dfA569ip103038.uvm.edu' at 11:16:27.567
> Printer: laserq@gecko
> Queue: no printable jobs in queue
> Server: no server active
> Status: job 'cfA674gecko' saved at 11:12:29.321
> Rank Owner/ID Class Job Files Size Time
> done root A 674 /usr/local/src_lprng 63363 11:12:26
>
> The problem seems to be very consistent: the *data* portion of the file
> never gets there. I have tried printcap with and without send_data_first
> and send_block_format - no change at all.
>
> Printcap entries:
> .common:
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/%P
> :sh:mx=0:mc=0
>
> # Jetdirect Box number 1
> lp:tc=.common:lp=saturnp1.uvm.edu%9100\
> :send_data_first:
>
> # Jetdirect box number 2 (different model)
> laserq:tc=.common:lp=132.198.103.204%9100
> :send_data_first
> :send_block_format
>
> It is seemingly impossible to determine if the control file or header
> file ever makes it to the system. Setting a debug level to network does
> seem to confirm that the connection itself is being made just fine.
>
> The conclusion I am rapidly approaching is that LPRng and/or the Mac OS
> (9.2.2 or X) are not capable of working together without Appletalk, that
> either LPRng requires pure Appletalk printing (in which case CAP or
> Netatalk is mandated) or simply cannot handle the print request the way it
> is set up at the client end when using LPR printing using IP on the
> workstation.
>
> If *anyone* has managed to use Desktop Printer Utility, LPR printing using
> IP on a Mac with LPRng (and NO Appletalk), I would _LOVE_ to hear from
> you.
>
> This seems, if true, unfortunate, given the poor (and that's charitable!)
> state of the Appletalk protocol. To my knowledge, most installations are
> moving away from Appletalk. To have a product that requires it's use
> seems most unfortunate.
>
> David Houston
> CIT Client Services Coordinator
> University of Vermont
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST
> The address you post from MUST be your subscription address
>
> If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests
> or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient,
> to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with: | example:
> subscribe LIST <mailaddr> | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> unsubscribe LIST <mailaddr> | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word
> LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST
The address you post from MUST be your subscription address
If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests
or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient,
to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with: | example:
subscribe LIST <mailaddr> | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unsubscribe LIST <mailaddr> | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word
LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
