hmm, I'm quite sure that the problem is on the mac side, perhaps one of
the experienced mac user from the list can give you a detailed description
of the setup ?



On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, David L. R. Houston wrote:

> Unfortunately, running lpd in debug (I've tried D1 - 10 and
> Network) always winds up in the same place: Check_for_missing
> files: missing data file.  I have no way of determining *why* the data
> part is missing...
>
>       David
>
> On Jan 9, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> . hmmm,
> .
> . seems to be a bit tricky, why don't you start the lpd in a debug mode (lpd
> . -d2) and look what's happening. Using appletalk is really pain !!!
> .
> .
> . regards
> .     ~christoph
> .
> .
> .
> . On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, David L. R. Houston wrote:
> .
> . > I got a considerable number of replies to this posting.  Alas, nothing,
> . > but nothing, has helped.
> . >
> . > Short and sweet question: has anyone gotten LPRng to function for a
> . > Macintosh client (running OS9 or OSX) that sets up its printers with the
> . > Desktop Printer Utility, LPR Printing using IP? (i.e. NOT using Appletalk)
> . >
> . > Here is what I know:
> . >
> . > - Netatalk is now installed on the same test machine.
> . >
> . > - However, a simple test on the other (primary) server reveals that in
> . > fact netatalk is *not* required to get LPR printing using IP to work.
> . > Netatalk *would* be needed _if_ printer selection and processing happened
> . > over _Appletalk_.  Since one of my chief goals is to do away with this
> . > hideous protocol, I need to be sure I can print without it.
> . >
> . > - Setting up a printer on either an OSX  or OS9 Mac client involves use of
> . > the Desktop Printer Utility, LPR type printing, and then entry of the
> . > hostname, and then the named print queue.  No combination of hostname
> . > (which for testing is gecko.uvm.edu) or named printers found in the
> . > /usr/local/etc/printcap gives any output.
> . >
> . > - All tests yield the identical result: (from /usr/local/bin/lpq -Pall)
> . >   Printer: lp@gecko (holdall)
> . >   Queue: no printable jobs in queue
> . >   Status: lp: Check_for_missing files: missing data file
> . > 'dfA569ip103038.uvm.edu' at 11:16:27.567
> . >   Printer: laserq@gecko
> . >   Queue: no printable jobs in queue
> . >   Server: no server active
> . >   Status: job 'cfA674gecko' saved at 11:12:29.321
> . >   Rank   Owner/ID  Class Job Files                Size  Time
> . >   done   root        A   674 /usr/local/src_lprng 63363 11:12:26
> . >
> . > The problem seems to be very consistent: the *data* portion of the file
> . > never gets there.  I have tried printcap with and without send_data_first
> . > and send_block_format - no change at all.
> . >
> . > Printcap entries:
> . > .common:
> . >    :sd=/var/spool/lpd/%P
> . >    :sh:mx=0:mc=0
> . >
> . > # Jetdirect Box number 1
> . > lp:tc=.common:lp=saturnp1.uvm.edu%9100\
> . >   :send_data_first:
> . >
> . > # Jetdirect box number 2 (different model)
> . > laserq:tc=.common:lp=132.198.103.204%9100
> . >   :send_data_first
> . >   :send_block_format
> . >
> . > It is seemingly impossible to determine if the control file or header
> . > file ever makes it to the system.  Setting a debug level to network does
> . > seem to confirm that the connection itself is being made just fine.
> . >
> . > The conclusion I am rapidly approaching is that LPRng and/or the Mac OS
> . > (9.2.2 or X) are not capable of working together without Appletalk, that
> . > either LPRng requires pure Appletalk printing (in which case CAP or
> . > Netatalk is mandated) or simply cannot handle the print request the way it
> . > is set up at the client end when using LPR printing using IP on the
> . > workstation.
> . >
> . > If *anyone* has managed to use Desktop Printer Utility, LPR printing using
> . > IP on a Mac with LPRng (and NO Appletalk), I would _LOVE_ to hear from
> . > you.
> . >
> . > This seems, if true, unfortunate, given the poor (and that's charitable!)
> . > state of the Appletalk protocol.  To my knowledge, most installations are
> . > moving away from Appletalk.  To have a product that requires it's use
> . > seems most unfortunate.
> . >
> . >   David Houston
> . >   CIT Client Services Coordinator
> . >   University of Vermont
> . >
> . >
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