Unfortunately, running lpd in debug (I've tried D1 - 10 and
Network) always winds up in the same place: Check_for_missing
files: missing data file.  I have no way of determining *why* the data
part is missing...

        David

On Jan 9, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

. hmmm,
. 
. seems to be a bit tricky, why don't you start the lpd in a debug mode (lpd
. -d2) and look what's happening. Using appletalk is really pain !!!
. 
. 
. regards
.       ~christoph
. 
. 
. 
. On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, David L. R. Houston wrote:
. 
. > I got a considerable number of replies to this posting.  Alas, nothing,
. > but nothing, has helped.
. >
. > Short and sweet question: has anyone gotten LPRng to function for a
. > Macintosh client (running OS9 or OSX) that sets up its printers with the
. > Desktop Printer Utility, LPR Printing using IP? (i.e. NOT using Appletalk)
. >
. > Here is what I know:
. >
. > - Netatalk is now installed on the same test machine.
. >
. > - However, a simple test on the other (primary) server reveals that in
. > fact netatalk is *not* required to get LPR printing using IP to work.
. > Netatalk *would* be needed _if_ printer selection and processing happened
. > over _Appletalk_.  Since one of my chief goals is to do away with this
. > hideous protocol, I need to be sure I can print without it.
. >
. > - Setting up a printer on either an OSX  or OS9 Mac client involves use of
. > the Desktop Printer Utility, LPR type printing, and then entry of the
. > hostname, and then the named print queue.  No combination of hostname
. > (which for testing is gecko.uvm.edu) or named printers found in the
. > /usr/local/etc/printcap gives any output.
. >
. > - All tests yield the identical result: (from /usr/local/bin/lpq -Pall)
. >     Printer: lp@gecko (holdall)
. >     Queue: no printable jobs in queue
. >     Status: lp: Check_for_missing files: missing data file
. > 'dfA569ip103038.uvm.edu' at 11:16:27.567
. >     Printer: laserq@gecko
. >     Queue: no printable jobs in queue
. >     Server: no server active
. >     Status: job 'cfA674gecko' saved at 11:12:29.321
. >     Rank   Owner/ID  Class Job Files                Size  Time
. >     done   root        A   674 /usr/local/src_lprng 63363 11:12:26
. >
. > The problem seems to be very consistent: the *data* portion of the file
. > never gets there.  I have tried printcap with and without send_data_first
. > and send_block_format - no change at all.
. >
. > Printcap entries:
. > .common:
. >    :sd=/var/spool/lpd/%P
. >    :sh:mx=0:mc=0
. >
. > # Jetdirect Box number 1
. > lp:tc=.common:lp=saturnp1.uvm.edu%9100\
. >   :send_data_first:
. >
. > # Jetdirect box number 2 (different model)
. > laserq:tc=.common:lp=132.198.103.204%9100
. >   :send_data_first
. >   :send_block_format
. >
. > It is seemingly impossible to determine if the control file or header
. > file ever makes it to the system.  Setting a debug level to network does
. > seem to confirm that the connection itself is being made just fine.
. >
. > The conclusion I am rapidly approaching is that LPRng and/or the Mac OS
. > (9.2.2 or X) are not capable of working together without Appletalk, that
. > either LPRng requires pure Appletalk printing (in which case CAP or
. > Netatalk is mandated) or simply cannot handle the print request the way it
. > is set up at the client end when using LPR printing using IP on the
. > workstation.
. >
. > If *anyone* has managed to use Desktop Printer Utility, LPR printing using
. > IP on a Mac with LPRng (and NO Appletalk), I would _LOVE_ to hear from
. > you.
. >
. > This seems, if true, unfortunate, given the poor (and that's charitable!)
. > state of the Appletalk protocol.  To my knowledge, most installations are
. > moving away from Appletalk.  To have a product that requires it's use
. > seems most unfortunate.
. >
. >     David Houston
. >     CIT Client Services Coordinator
. >     University of Vermont
. >
. >
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