Hi Les, 

I considered this as well. 

On 4/4/18, 3:39 PM, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Well...this raises a topic on which I would like to have feedback from the 
WG.
    
    Combining IS-IS/OSPF into one working group is fine - no argument there.
    But, we now may be producing two classes of documents:
    
    1)Documents which are specific to a protocol (IS-IS or OSPFv2 or OSPFv3)

In this case, the name should include -isis- or -ospf- if there is any 
ambiguity. In the case of RFC 7810 BIS, there is none since RFC 7810 is IS-IS 
only. However, I wouldn't complain if you made it 
draft-ginsberg-lsr-isis-rfc7810bis.txt. We just need to have "-lsr-" as the WG 
for all new documents.

Thanks,
Acee

    
    2)Documents which cover 2 or more protocols
    
    draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis-00.txt is Category #1 - and there is NO 
CHANCE this document will EVER cover OSPF - since OSPF already has RFC 7471 and 
this bis document is a correction to the IS-IS specific RFC7810. Calling it 
"-lsr-" to me is simply confusing as it in no way indicates that it is IS-IS 
specific.
    I suggest that any document which falls into Category 1 should continue to 
follow the traditional protocol specific naming.
    If this somehow violates some IETF rule then I suppose we could use 
"-lsr-isis-". (somewhat verbose)
    
    For Category 2 documents "-lsr-" certainly makes sense. 
    
    Comments??
    
       Les
    
    
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Acee Lindem (acee)
    > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 7:45 AM
    > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>; [email protected]
    > Subject: Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-isis-
    > rfc7810bis-00.txt
    > 
    > Hi Les,
    > 
    > Can you resubmit as draft-ginsberg-lsr-rfc7810bis-00.txt? Also, please 
add a
    > "Changes from RFC 7810" section to the "Introduction". I see you have 
added
    > RFC8174 to the "Requirements Language" section already.
    > 
    > I think we should accept this as an LSR Working Group document - does
    > anyone disagree?
    > 
    > Thanks,
    > Acee
    > 
    > On 3/30/18, 6:39 PM, "Lsr on behalf of Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <lsr-
    > [email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
    > 
    >     Folks -
    > 
    >     A bis version of RFC 7810 has been submitted to address the issue 
reported
    > in Errata ID: 5293 https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7810
    > 
    >     Given that there exist implementations which have interpreted the
    > ambiguous encoding of some sub-TLVs in different/non-interoperable ways
    > it was felt that a bis version of the RFC was justified.
    >     Please see the Appendix of the draft for a discussion of the changes 
from
    > RFC 7810 and the reasons why.
    > 
    >        Les
    > 
    > 
    >     -----Original Message-----
    >     From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
    >     Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:33 PM
    >     To: Qin Wu <[email protected]>; David Ward (wardd)
    > <[email protected]>; Spencer Giacolone <[email protected]>;
    > Spencer Giacalone <[email protected]>; John Drake
    > <[email protected]>; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>; David
    > Ward (wardd) <[email protected]>; Stefano Previdi <[email protected]>
    >     Subject: New Version Notification for 
draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis-00.txt
    > 
    > 
    >     A new version of I-D, draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis-00.txt
    >     has been successfully submitted by Les Ginsberg and posted to the IETF
    > repository.
    > 
    >     Name:         draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis
    >     Revision:     00
    >     Title:                IS-IS Traffic Engineering (TE) Metric Extensions
    >     Document date:        2018-03-30
    >     Group:                Individual Submission
    >     Pages:                19
    >     URL:            
https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ginsberg-isis-
    > rfc7810bis-00.txt
    >     Status:         
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis/
    >     Htmlized:       
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis-00
    >     Htmlized:       
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ginsberg-isis-
    > rfc7810bis
    > 
    > 
    >     Abstract:
    >        In certain networks, such as, but not limited to, financial
    >        information networks (e.g., stock market data providers), network-
    >        performance criteria (e.g., latency) are becoming as critical to
    >        data-path selection as other metrics.
    > 
    >        This document describes extensions to IS-IS Traffic Engineering
    >        Extensions (RFC 5305) such that network-performance information can
    >        be distributed and collected in a scalable fashion.  The 
information
    >        distributed using IS-IS TE Metric Extensions can then be used to 
make
    >        path-selection decisions based on network performance.
    > 
    >        Note that this document only covers the mechanisms with which
    >        network-performance information is distributed.  The mechanisms for
    >        measuring network performance or acting on that information, once
    >        distributed, are outside the scope of this document.
    > 
    >        This document obsoletes RFC 7810.
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
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