I think that the only time we should include the protocol (in addition to 
'-lsr-') is if we have split documents (for whatever reason) on the same 
solution. We have an example of this actually:

   draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-09
   draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-msd-09

Going forward we either combine these types of documents into a single document 
(discussion started @101) so "-lsr-" is appropriate, or if there's some reason 
not to merge them then we have 2 documents that need the protocol identifier to 
disambiguate.

In this case there's no ambiguity so I don't see the need of adding an extra 
"-isis-".

Thanks,
Chris.

Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]> writes:

Well...this raises a topic on which I would like to have feedback from the WG.

Combining IS-IS/OSPF into one working group is fine - no argument there.
But, we now may be producing two classes of documents:

1)Documents which are specific to a protocol (IS-IS or OSPFv2 or OSPFv3)

2)Documents which cover 2 or more protocols

draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis-00.txt is Category #1 - and there is NO CHANCE this 
document will EVER cover OSPF - since OSPF already has RFC 7471 and this bis document is 
a correction to the IS-IS specific RFC7810. Calling it "-lsr-" to me is simply 
confusing as it in no way indicates that it is IS-IS specific.
I suggest that any document which falls into Category 1 should continue to 
follow the traditional protocol specific naming.
If this somehow violates some IETF rule then I suppose we could use 
"-lsr-isis-". (somewhat verbose)

For Category 2 documents "-lsr-" certainly makes sense.

Comments??

   Les


-----Original Message-----
From: Acee Lindem (acee)
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 7:45 AM
To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-isis-
rfc7810bis-00.txt

Hi Les,

Can you resubmit as draft-ginsberg-lsr-rfc7810bis-00.txt? Also, please add a
"Changes from RFC 7810" section to the "Introduction". I see you have added
RFC8174 to the "Requirements Language" section already.

I think we should accept this as an LSR Working Group document - does
anyone disagree?

Thanks,
Acee

On 3/30/18, 6:39 PM, "Lsr on behalf of Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <lsr-
[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

    Folks -

    A bis version of RFC 7810 has been submitted to address the issue reported
in Errata ID: 5293 https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7810

    Given that there exist implementations which have interpreted the
ambiguous encoding of some sub-TLVs in different/non-interoperable ways
it was felt that a bis version of the RFC was justified.
    Please see the Appendix of the draft for a discussion of the changes from
RFC 7810 and the reasons why.

       Les


    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
    Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:33 PM
    To: Qin Wu <[email protected]>; David Ward (wardd)
<[email protected]>; Spencer Giacolone <[email protected]>;
Spencer Giacalone <[email protected]>; John Drake
<[email protected]>; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>; David
Ward (wardd) <[email protected]>; Stefano Previdi <[email protected]>
    Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis-00.txt


    A new version of I-D, draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis-00.txt
    has been successfully submitted by Les Ginsberg and posted to the IETF
repository.

    Name:               draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis
    Revision:   00
    Title:              IS-IS Traffic Engineering (TE) Metric Extensions
    Document date:      2018-03-30
    Group:              Individual Submission
    Pages:              19
    URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ginsberg-isis-
rfc7810bis-00.txt
    Status:         
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis/
    Htmlized:       
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis-00
    Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ginsberg-isis-
rfc7810bis


    Abstract:
       In certain networks, such as, but not limited to, financial
       information networks (e.g., stock market data providers), network-
       performance criteria (e.g., latency) are becoming as critical to
       data-path selection as other metrics.

       This document describes extensions to IS-IS Traffic Engineering
       Extensions (RFC 5305) such that network-performance information can
       be distributed and collected in a scalable fashion.  The information
       distributed using IS-IS TE Metric Extensions can then be used to make
       path-selection decisions based on network performance.

       Note that this document only covers the mechanisms with which
       network-performance information is distributed.  The mechanisms for
       measuring network performance or acting on that information, once
       distributed, are outside the scope of this document.

       This document obsoletes RFC 7810.





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