In favor! Regards, Jeff
> On Feb 1, 2019, at 08:02, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsb...@cisco.com> wrote: > > I am in favor of this proposal. > > Les > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lsr <lsr-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Christian Hopps >> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 4:26 AM >> To: lsr@ietf.org >> Cc: cho...@chopps.org >> Subject: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction Draft Redux] >> >> >> Summary of where we are at with dynamic flooding reduction: >> >> - We have a well written original work that came first and described the >> problems as well as a TLVs to allow for a centralized solution (draft-li- >> dyanmic-flooding). We do not need to standardize the centralized algorithm. >> >> - A small change to this work allowed for distributed algorithms and for >> outside work on distributed algorithms to continue in parallel. >> >> - We have another original work that started primarily as a distributed >> algorithm >> (draft-cc-ospf-flooding-reduction) >> >> - Finally we also have: >> - Cross-pollination of ideas. >> - Failed attempts at merging. >> - An authors list "Arms-Race". >> >> Moving forward: >> >> - During IETF 103 I proposed we have no conflict if we: >> >> 1) adopt draft-li-lsr-dyanmic-flooding as the base WG document. >> 2) have authors of draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction work on a distributed >> algorithm as they started with. >> >> - Acee agreed during the meeting (as chair) that this was the best way >> forward. We had some agreement form the floor as well. >> >> - Any good ideas regarding the distribution of a centralized topology can be >> debated and added (with appropriate attribution) to the base document >> after we adopt one. >> >> - This is what happens when we adopt a document as WG work, we work on >> it. >> >> - The original authors of the distributed solution can continue to work on >> their distributed algorithm in a separate document which would also need >> standardization. >> >> Does anyone see a serious problem with this path forward? >> >> Thanks, >> Chris & Acee. >> LSR Chairs. >> >> Christian Hopps <cho...@chopps.org> writes: >> >>> We've had the authors of the individual conflicting drafts take a shot at >> merging their work. >>> >>> This has failed. >>> >>> Here is the full history (which I also summarized during IETF103 as well). I >> will send a second email discussing this. >>> >>> - Jan 2, 2018 Publication: draft-li-dynamic-flooding and drfat-li-dynamic- >> flooding-isis >>> published centralized solution. >>> >>> - Mar 5, 2018 Publication: draft-cc-isis-flooding-reduction and >>> draft-cc-ospf- >> flooding-reduction >>> published distributed solution. >>> - mention of centralized solution asserting it is not good choice. >>> >>> - IETF 101 (Mar 2018) >>> - Video: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHmT4ytMn4w&list=PLC86T- >> 6ZTP5j_HaBNdfPbgxGIp22cnaWS >>> - Minutes: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/minutes- >> 101-lsr-00 >>> - draft-li-dynamic-flooding-02 presented (1 author). at IETF 101 >>> - Generally well received. >>> - draft-cc-ospf-flooding-reduction-00 (4 authors) presented. >>> - Serious problems immediately found during presentation -- not fully >> baked. >>> >>> - Mar 18, 2018 draft-li-dynamic-flooding-03 published (1 author) >>> - Mar 27, 2018 draft-li-dynamic-flooding-04 published (1 author) >>> - Apr 20, 2018 draft-cc-ospf-flooding-reduction-01 revised >>> - Jun 28, 2018 draft-li-dynamic-flooding-05 published (2 authors) >>> - *SMALL CHANGE TO SUPPORT DISTRIBUTED ALGORITHM*. >>> - Does not specify distributed algorithm only how to indicate one in use, >> small change. >>> >>> - Jul 2, 2018 draft-cc-ospf-flooding-reduction-02 published >>> >>> - IETF 102 (Jul 14, 2018) >>> - draft-li-dynamic-flooding-05 presented. >>> - draft-cc-ospf-flooding-reduction-02 presented. >>> >>> - Sep 12, 2018 draft-cc-ospf-flooding-reduction-03 (4 authors) >>> - *LARGE CHANGE ADDS NEW CENTRALIZED SOLUTION*. >>> >>> - Sep 20, 2018 draft-cc-ospf-flooding-reduction-04 (4 authors) >>> >>> - Oct 21, 2018 draft-li-lsr-dynamic-flooding-00 and -01 (5 authors) >>> >>> - IETF 103 (Nov 3, 2018) >>> >>> - Chairs give direction >>> >>> - draft-li-lsr-dynamic-flooding-05 having come first, being well written >> and not >>> specifying a distributed algorithm (merely allowing for one) is the >>> correct >> vehicle >>> to adopt as a base document. >>> >>> - Distributed algorithm work (the original basis for >>> draft-cc-ospf-flooding- >> reduction) >>> should continue as a separate document form the base which would >> thus we have no >>> conflicts. >>> >>> - In the meantime the authors try and merge work, this fails. >>> >>> - Dec 3, 2018 draft-li-lsr-dynamic-flooding-02 (7 authors) >>> >>> - Dec 10, 2018 draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-00 (4 authors) >>> >>> - Jan 7, 2019 draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-01 (8 authors) > > _______________________________________________ > Lsr mailing list > Lsr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr _______________________________________________ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr
